Politically Correct or Incorrect Bullshit Of The Day

[Sir Honkers]

Originally Posted by Brian249x

I have found it impossible to make people understand that one can be for supporting traditional marriages and stable homes for children without being anti-gay rights.

Forgive my bluntness, but you do talk a load of cobblers. Three of my grandchildren are being raised by their mums and surprise surprise, they're no more dysfunctional than the other five.
And no E, that's just the way you see things. You are as wrong about this as you were about leftie teachers, filling their students heads with some commo agenda. As for the woman...nah she's not homophobic...she's just for gay people being treated less equally.
This is the great tragedy of Oz these days, too many conservatives trying to hide their fascist views behind their bullshit claims that rampant political correctness will be the roon of us all.

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by loosegoose

Forgive my bluntness, but you do talk a load of cobblers. Three of my grandchildren are being raised by their mums and surprise surprise, they're no more dysfunctional than the other five.
And no E, that's just the way you see things. You are as wrong about this as you were about leftie teachers, filling their students heads with some commo agenda. This is the great tragedy of Oz these days, too many conservatives trying to hide their fascist views behind their bullshit claims that rampant political correctness will be the roon of us all.

Really which bit am I wrong about
The fact that Qantas wanted employees to wear rings ???
Maybe I didn't see the report on Sky Channel, Maybe I was hearing things on 3AW ??? Maybe I didn't actually vote Yes for Gay marriage and imagined ticking the Yes box for gay marriage ??? Maybe I'm a complete idiot ???


Your comment Mate, is exactly what I should have expected from a leftie as you call yourself.

Find it funny how I've no problem with gay marriage but voice a concern about people voicing a legitimate opinion and I'm told I'm wrong and all I voiced was a concern

Maybe I'm imagining I have a concern about being labelled myself ?
Maybe I even imagined hearing friends and talk back station callers voice their concerns about the left wing union teachers drumming crap into kids heads ???

But hey, you're a leftie and quite entitled and automatically right to simply me label wrong.

Andrew Bolt has more credibility than any reporter on that ABC.
Here ya go
https://au.educationhq.com/news/5051...ools-academic/

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/opi...2e2696e9599250

As for the lady that lost her job, I followed that story, about this time last year, had you read her comments you'd have seen she's not homophobic, but rather again you're quick to label without facts , even if she was homophobic that's no reason to lose her job, a job and someones beliefs in anything private that's not job related are seperate issues. That's my point, PC idiots being self righteous.

[Arturo2nd]

Originally Posted by loosegoose

Forgive my bluntness, but you do talk a load of cobblers. Three of my grandchildren are being raised by their mums and surprise surprise, they're no more dysfunctional than the other five.

That may be so and it is a credit to you, your wife, and their mums. But, a whole lot of studies have shown that children raised in two parent households tend to do better.

I was raised in an unhappy two parent home that left many of us kids with emotional scars. My folks split when I was 23 and they still had 4 kids at home. My dad to his credit, religiously paid his child support, maintained his visits, and took the kids on vacations. To my parents credit, despite our various issues, all of us left that house prepared to take care of ourselves, with strong work ethics, and firm values. We now range in age from 69 to 50; all seven of us remain alive. Most of my friends lost siblings many years ago, if they haven't passed on themselves.

My nieces and nephews mostly grew up in single parent homes and are struggling. Of course, life has become more difficult for young people in the United States. I am also very grateful to have known my grandparents, aunts, and uncles. All had influence on who I am today. It is my opinion that the traditional, multi-generational household or village is best of all for kids. After all, mothers frequently died young from complications in childbirth and fathers were often killed in war. But an extended family and village ensured that children were loved and mentored.

Gay kids and relatives also have their place. There is entirely too much weirdness in the unhealthy rejection of those that are somewhat different and not nearly enough attention paid to how much we are all alike.

[bowlinggreen]

Originally Posted by Estreeter

BTW, I think Bert and Ernie, Ernie takes and Bert gives

Google gay Bert and Ernie images, that seems to be the case.

In the matter of single parent homes, I knew of at least one as a child where the kids were a bunch of rampaging, vandalizing, stealing little animals. Sometimes it takes a stern father to take things literally in hand, i.e. a hand applied vigorously to the backside of a squealing delinquent child.

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by bowlinggreen

Google gay Bert and Ernie images, that seems to be the case.

I ain't quite so sure about which is doing which part



Ernie seems to be trying to convince Bert to give it to him yet Bert is the one who has a concerned look on his face and he ain't the one who drew the short straw

[Sir Honkers]

Originally Posted by Estreeter

Really which bit am I wrong about
The fact that Qantas wanted employees to wear rings ???
Maybe I didn't see the report on Sky Channel, Maybe I was hearing things on 3AW ??? Maybe I didn't actually vote Yes for Gay marriage and imagined ticking the Yes box for gay marriage ??? Maybe I'm a complete idiot ???


Your comment Mate, is exactly what I should have expected from a leftie as you call yourself.

Find it funny how I've no problem with gay marriage but voice a concern about people voicing a legitimate opinion and I'm told I'm wrong and all I voiced was a concern

Maybe I'm imagining I have a concern about being labelled myself ?
Maybe I even imagined hearing friends and talk back station callers voice their concerns about the left wing union teachers drumming crap into kids heads ???

But hey, you're a leftie and quite entitled and automatically right to simply me label wrong.

Andrew Bolt has more credibility than any reporter on that ABC.
Here ya go
https://au.educationhq.com/news/5051...ools-academic/

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/opi...2e2696e9599250

As for the lady that lost her job, I followed that story, about this time last year, had you read her comments you'd have seen she's not homophobic, but rather again you're quick to label without facts , even if she was homophobic that's no reason to lose her job, a job and someones beliefs in anything private that's not job related are seperate issues. That's my point, PC idiots being self righteous.

I thought at first what is Trails doing going off at me, I didn't say anything to him.
Okay, I learnt to my chargrin on another forum, that arguing on the internet is pointless, so I will just make these points and then leave it.
1: What you have expressed is not a legitimate opinion, it is just a POV. A legitimate opinion is one that you can prove is true. Your POV has no more or less validity than mine.
2. IMHO opinion Qantas has every right to express a view on gay marriage. The No Argument's outrage was spawned by the fact that Qantas supported it. Had the company come out against gay marriage the no argument would have seized on it as support for it's case. IMHO
3. I have no idea what Quantas asked of their staff. Unless you know a Quantas staff person and heard it from them neither do you.
4. Andrew Bolt is not a journalist. He is a columnist who writes an opinion piece. He can write whatever he likes as long as he doesn't defame people.
4. Same with 3AW
5. My last issue is you making claims about teachers pushing agendas and general PC evil without offering any evidence to back it up. Conversations with friends is not proof, it is just people who share the same views.
And yes I do lean to the left, but why would you make that assumption of me. There is a bit more to me and my views than that.

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by loosegoose

2. IMHO opinion Qantas has every right to express a view on gay marriage. The No Argument's outrage was spawned by the fact that Qantas supported it. Had the company come out against gay marriage the no argument would have seized on it as support for it's case. IMHO
3. I have no idea what Quantas asked of their staff. Unless you know a Quantas staff person and heard it from them neither do you.

Of course Qantas has a right to support gay marriage, I didn't dispute that,
I dispute what they asked their staff to do, That is they wanted their employees to wear a ring in their finger which wasn't quite all the way around signifying that marriage isn't complete until it was made legal for all. The problem lies with the fact that some felt they "had' to do it, felt it wasn't right given they were against gay marriage and would have felt uneasy in their workplace.

Before you argue back that that's how gay's may have felt, uneasy and whatever with homophobia, you have to remember that this was a workplace and not a political office, the 2 don't belong. Like I said, I had no problem with Qantas supporting the cause and would be more appropriate sponsoring events, donating funds etc .... but what they asked was pure garbage.

Originally Posted by loosegoose

5. My last issue is you making claims about teachers pushing agendas and general PC evil without offering any evidence to back it up. Conversations with friends is not proof, it is just people who share the same views.
And yes I do lean to the left, but why would you make that assumption of me. There is a bit more to me and my views than that.

When I'm at a BBQ and I hear one Mum say her kid, about 8 I think, say that her son thinks it's OK for boys to wear girls clothes at school and the Mum asks where he got that idea from and he answered that during show and tell the teacher said it that ain't an opinion, kids don't make up that stuff.

Did you read my links about PC stuff in public schools ???

As far as leftie goes, my heart lies with the left, always will, last 10 to 15 years I've slowly lost it with them, the left of when I was in my teens to mid 30's ain't the left I knew and trusted. The last person from the left here I liked was Mark Latham, after that all are equal garbage IMO. The 2 most dangerous things here right now is that clown Pauline Hanson and that idiot mob Get Up, On opposite ends of politics and have zero tolerance or time for both.

[Decadence]

o·pin·ion
/əˈpinyən/
noun
noun: opinion; plural noun: opinions

a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

Middle English: via Old French from Latin opinio(n-), from the stem of opinari ‘think, believe.’

[movieman88]

"Guilty until proven... we don't give a fuck" intensifies!
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...mation/571021/

[ellpieski]

Originally Posted by movieman88

"Guilty until proven... we don't give a fuck" intensifies!
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...mation/571021/

so now men are no longer allowed to defend themselves, "guilty without trial" the essence of politically correct bullshit. I cant wait until all these leftie moms are stunned when their sons are accused of rape 2 years after prom when they dump their girlfriends.