VEF and AI tampered content

currentpeak · April 14th, 2024, 08:54 PM

I was searching for VEF rules regarding the videos and pictures "enhanced" by AI tools but have not found anything bar a few threads with like-minded posters who oppose such content.

For example, a VHS movie rip is posted in Classic Movies thread and some other poster will then take that video, cut it into scenes and make several posts in the Classic Models/Classic Pornstars threads.

My issue with that is that he:

doesn't credit original poster of the movie, nor posts link to original video
posts AI enhanced video, which is truly an abomination even if upscaling it to 720p
doesn't clearly label his post in the title as AI upscaled

Same goes with AI upscaled pictures and galleries. 99% of these are garbage, because to truly enhance something, you need an original source of the film/photo and somebody skilled with these tools, not a "one-click upscale professionals". I truly doubt they even know what word enhancement means, because objectively and subjectively, their creations are exact opposites of that word.

There are exceptions to the rule maybe, but when we are dealing with vintage stuff when you are often lucky to find anything, whether it is a long out of print VHS or DVD or photo/video content from no longer existing websites, there is no way AI can make those look better.

It would be nice if there was at minimum something like this required when posting AI upscaled/enhanced/tampered content:

clearly labeled AI upscaled in the post title
link to original source post whether it is a video/picture/gallery
in case the content was not posted before, or you are posting a scene cut from the movie, then you are required to post it in original quality/resolution as well

I will always prefer an original SD VHS/DVD/picture to AI upscaled HD smudges.

**Jazz67** · April 14th, 2024, 11:27 PM

http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/t43...and-scope.html

**Jazz67** · April 14th, 2024, 11:30 PM

you'd probably be better asking here
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/t17...osts-here.html

and here
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/t17...eups-here.html

**Scott T** · April 15th, 2024, 12:20 PM

There is also the Rules about AI Enhancement thread

currentpeak · April 15th, 2024, 12:48 PM

Thanks guys, though this was more of an appeal to governing body of VEF (admins/rulers/mods) to perhaps think about setting some universal rules re AI posts. But I see that basically both Classic and Modern forums are self-governed.

Seen the Rules about AI Enhancement thread thread too, but that is just Modern forum.

Anyway, I will repost in that Classic Movies thread, though unless there is a rule set, we can post re this issues ad infinitum.

smacintosh · April 16th, 2024, 04:47 PM

I for one appreciate several of the posters who post upgrades. The technology is still very new and will improve over time and some of the older videos are in terrible shape. I have seen video upgrades i believe to be well done and hope they continue their work.

currentpeak · April 16th, 2024, 06:48 PM

That of course does not collide with what I suggested above - if poster provides the links for both an original and upgraded version. Then it is a win-win for everyone.

Quote:

Originally Posted by smacintosh

I for one appreciate several of the posters who post upgrades. The technology is still very new and will improve over time and some of the older videos are in terrible shape. I have seen video upgrades i believe to be well done and hope they continue their work.

April 14th, 2024, 08:54 PM	#1
currentpeak Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 120 Thanks: 63 Thanked 2,257 Times in 113 Posts	VEF and AI tampered content I was searching for VEF rules regarding the videos and pictures "enhanced" by AI tools but have not found anything bar a few threads with like-minded posters who oppose such content. For example, a VHS movie rip is posted in Classic Movies thread and some other poster will then take that video, cut it into scenes and make several posts in the Classic Models/Classic Pornstars threads. My issue with that is that he: doesn't credit original poster of the movie, nor posts link to original video posts AI enhanced video, which is truly an abomination even if upscaling it to 720p doesn't clearly label his post in the title as AI upscaled Same goes with AI upscaled pictures and galleries. 99% of these are garbage, because to truly enhance something, you need an original source of the film/photo and somebody skilled with these tools, not a "one-click upscale professionals". I truly doubt they even know what word enhancement means, because objectively and subjectively, their creations are exact opposites of that word. There are exceptions to the rule maybe, but when we are dealing with vintage stuff when you are often lucky to find anything, whether it is a long out of print VHS or DVD or photo/video content from no longer existing websites, there is no way AI can make those look better. It would be nice if there was at minimum something like this required when posting AI upscaled/enhanced/tampered content: clearly labeled AI upscaled in the post title link to original source post whether it is a video/picture/gallery in case the content was not posted before, or you are posting a scene cut from the movie, then you are required to post it in original quality/resolution as well I will always prefer an original SD VHS/DVD/picture to AI upscaled HD smudges.

April 14th, 2024, 11:27 PM	#2
Jazz67 SuperMod, supergroovy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Lost in the Forest Posts: 6,002 Thanks: 49,624 Thanked 45,974 Times in 5,961 Posts	http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/t43...and-scope.html __________________ Don't cling to a mistake just because you spent a lot of time making it.

April 14th, 2024, 11:30 PM	#3
Jazz67 SuperMod, supergroovy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Lost in the Forest Posts: 6,002 Thanks: 49,624 Thanked 45,974 Times in 5,961 Posts	you'd probably be better asking here http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/t17...osts-here.html and here http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/t17...eups-here.html __________________ Don't cling to a mistake just because you spent a lot of time making it.

April 15th, 2024, 12:20 PM	#4
Scott T Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: UK Posts: 4,363 Thanks: 38,424 Thanked 72,018 Times in 4,349 Posts	There is also the Rules about AI Enhancement thread __________________ Everything that I upload to VEF is archived so please message me if my posts have any dead content, including thumbnails. All scans are from my own magazines purchased new, plus a few second hand ones purchased early on.

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April 15th, 2024, 12:48 PM	#5
currentpeak Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 120 Thanks: 63 Thanked 2,257 Times in 113 Posts	Thanks guys, though this was more of an appeal to governing body of VEF (admins/rulers/mods) to perhaps think about setting some universal rules re AI posts. But I see that basically both Classic and Modern forums are self-governed. Seen the Rules about AI Enhancement thread thread too, but that is just Modern forum. Anyway, I will repost in that Classic Movies thread, though unless there is a rule set, we can post re this issues ad infinitum.

April 16th, 2024, 04:47 PM	#6
smacintosh Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 105 Thanks: 418 Thanked 766 Times in 97 Posts	I for one appreciate several of the posters who post upgrades. The technology is still very new and will improve over time and some of the older videos are in terrible shape. I have seen video upgrades i believe to be well done and hope they continue their work.