Militant Islamists

[crinolynne]

Originally Posted by Rogerbh

http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/06/af...ferent-values/

I guess some Canadians are having second thoughts. Wait until a few bombs go off.

Nope.

The Daily Caller? Dude, it's the Internet, yer Mr T hasn't yet cut off your access to sites from other countries, you really need to get out of your box a bit more.

[Rogerbh]

Its from a survey funded by the OCASI - http://www.ocasi.org/ - not a conservative group.

Sure the article points to the negative facts disclosed by the survey, but are we suppose to ignore all negative facts and just look for pro-immigration items?

We have enough problems with the homeless in the US, we don't need more people needed help here. If Canada wants, I'd love to ship our homeless to them.

[crinolynne]

Originally Posted by Rogerbh

Its from a survey funded by the OCASI - http://www.ocasi.org/ - not a conservative group.

Sure the article points to the negative facts disclosed by the survey, but are we suppose to ignore all negative facts and just look for pro-immigration items?

We have enough problems with the homeless in the US, we don't need more people needed help here. If Canada wants, I'd love to ship our homeless to them.

No thanks, we think you should build a wall; Mr-T to pay for it all on his ownsome of course.

[Arturo2nd]

Originally Posted by Rogerbh

We have enough problems with the homeless in the US, we don't need more people needed help here. If Canada wants, I'd love to ship our homeless to them.

I am pretty sure that the dozens of homeless folks in my neighborhood don't want to go anywhere colder. We rarely get more than one or two nights in mid-winter with temperatures below freezing. Mostly we stay between the mid-40s and mid-60s F (5.5 to 20 C) in winter

[VOAC]

Originally Posted by Brian249x

The difficulty is that the vast majority of Muslims are peace loving and law abiding. The murderous lunatic fringe causes the problem. We don't indentify all Christians with the Ku Klux Klan and their ilk do we?

In fact, it is doubtful whether or not Al-Queda and the like are Muslims at all. They are most likely criminal thugs who are hiding behind religion. It is unfortunate that they are placing the entire Middle East at risk. Have they forgotten that Northern Europeans have repeatedly proven themselves to be the most murderous human beings on the planet? How many times are some lunatic Arabs going to commit some atrocities before so-called civilized Europe decides enough is enough and drops a cobalt bomb on Mecca making it radioactive for a million years and continues by conducting a genocidal campaign against the Muslim world? We have the weapons of mass destruction. So far, the United States is the only country to have dropped nuclear bombs on civilians. As the first posting in this thread indicates, there is a growing sentiment in the West to take drastic measures.

The difficulty is that the vast majority of Muslims are peace loving and law abiding.



Wrong...the majority of muslims, in fact, almost all of them, share all key views and attitudes and 'islamic world view" with what we erroneously, and desperately hoping, keep calling 'radicals".
Virtually all muslims believe that Israel is an abomination which must be destroyed, not because Israel is alleged to be oppresive, btw, the entire Middle-east and Islamic world is permanently oppressive and muslims accept mere oppression with at most apathy.Not because Israel is alleged oppressive (it is in fact the closest thing to Western Jeffersonian liberal democracy in the entire region) , but, because 1. non-muslims dominate muslims there , and 2. because non-muslims hold the door keys to Dome of the rock/al Aqsa and other of some of the most holy mosques of Islam.

What you also do not understand, is the difference between so-called 'radicalisation'...and mobilisation.
A very large share of the muslim population in the USA and every other Western country including this one, Australia, is in fact 'radicalised". Their views are militant and incendiary, they believe in and frequently call for the destruction of the West and our form of government, they loudly detest all non-muslims and call loudly for our defeat, subjugation, and/or death.

An additional huge percentage of the muslims listen to all of this in silent if somewhat nervous agreement. They suppose exactly the same things as they are hearing from some raving yelling contorting bearded frocked BO-ridden ahole from the pulpits in most average mosques.
They are just not really wanting to join in actively and get in trouble right now.
But if you or I were being killed in the street in front of them by 'radicals', they would either join in, or at best look the other way and continue on. They believe it is the right thing and God's will, even if they might be a little squeamish.
The other delineation you do not understand or do not want to have pointed out, maybe, is the difference between 'radicalised' and 'mobilised'.

Atta and coy, September 11 2001, were obviously both radicalised and mobilised.So were numerous other individuals and teams who have carried out or plotted numerous mass-casualty attacks since, all over the world.

Every time that happens, droves, multitudes of muslims either publicly or privately within walls with other muslims, congratulate endorse celebrate what has been done.
If you believe any of it is otherwise, you are just naive, maybe naive because facing the truth about this thing poses then a lot of other awkward 'ok, now whats"?
That's why even most mainstream politicians put a completely different view in public to the one they put in private. In private, many of them are not just concerned,but more like terrified, of the way things are going, and what is coming. But standing up, telling the truth, and proposing the actual solutions, which are not easy or trivial pieces of legislation, is hard work, with lots of opposition.

Nothing is going magically get better or change about this thing, btw, there is no wonderland where all the muslims and their children and grandchildren, all embrace this 'assimilation" or "integration" and change into what we want them to be, ie, like all the other immigrant groups and cultures in the main for example.Not going to happen.
The experience here, is that the children and their children are more likely to turn on us than the first wave were. The first wave, in some or even most cases, harbor something akin to gratitude to be here.
Not gratitude to us, mind you, but just being glad to be out of an Islamocunthole, and having a new life opportunity at something better. (hell, even life on a Western welfare system beats the hell out of aspects of life in the Islamic world)
But, their children, born here, avoid even that sense of thanksgiving or obligation.
As many of their lives inevitably do not turn out as they would have preferred, they turn back in on their base religion, an inherently high mental illness rate also is pricked and sparked, and we become a very hated and dehumanised enemy.(and chances are, we were not particularly liked exactly at any point from the get-go)
And the difference between such individuals, and some loner of any faith or no faith preparing an attack in his basement, is that the muslims have an entire religion, and enumerable individuals local and abroad, to endorse and applaud every warped obtuse thought he has.

[Arturo2nd]

Originally Posted by VOAC

The difficulty is that the vast majority of Muslims are peace loving and law abiding.



Wrong...the majority of muslims, in fact, almost all of them, share all key views and attitudes and 'islamic world view" with what we erroneously, and desperately hoping, keep calling 'radicals".
Virtually all muslims believe that Israel is an abomination which must be destroyed,

OK, you have this long rant, but just how the hell do you know all this? Have you been attending mosques and listening to sermons?

The main problem with Israel is that Jews used armed force to evict Palestinians from property to which the Palestinians had legal title. Israelis continue to appropriate Palestinian property with the support of the Israeli government. Palestinians are routinely murdered if they resist the illegal seizure of their property.

[Debbiequarry1]

I strongly oppose halal being allowed. As a species we treat other animals badly enough without the barbarity of halal. Recently many high street names have switched to halal for various reasons. Anyone supporting this should be ashamed.

[Arturo2nd]

It is about time! All who think that the Muslim world is incapable of change should check out the #MosqueMeToo movement. Is ts seems the Muslim women have also had enough of being groped, fondled, raped, and otherwise sexually assaulted in religious contexts or by imams and other religious leaders. They have been told to keep quiet and not fan the flames of Islamophobia by "making Muslims look bad." These women are not having it.

I saw a great quote in an article: "Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them." I don't know how all this new found dialogue will end and how things will look when its done, but something's got to give. Even a teenage girl is capable of wielding an AK-47. It appears that the women of the world have decided that they've had enough.

[Roubignol]

I just read in a book about "freedom", a staggering fact that I never listen reported in my ears by the medias.
As we all know, when a jihadist commits suicide, he then hopes to have at his disposal a large number of virgins to the paradise.

Until now, nothing new to me.

But a fact that I did not know was narrated by the author of the book: "And the unbelievers who were killed by the martyr will also be saved to the paradise."

If this theory is proven, I understand better why our medias never talk about it, because it is a colossal for all the potential martyrs.

Originally Posted by Debbiequarry1

I strongly oppose halal being allowed. As a species we treat other animals badly enough without the barbarity of halal. Recently many high street names have switched to halal for various reasons. Anyone supporting this should be ashamed.

And what about kosher?

[ultimatewarlord]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

And what about kosher?

Many major food outlets don't proudly trumpet that their meat is kosher. They do with halal.