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**cylnz** · April 17th, 2024, 06:06 AM

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As overwhelmingly pleased as I was with Shogun ep08; I did not find ep09 to be nearly as compelling. Mariko's continually courting death for no discernable good reason, or not reason enough, wasnt as remarkable as her death in either the book (which I have already started rereading after 40 something years) nor is it a poigniant as her death in the Chamberlain mini series.

I was not pleased with the overall juvenile tone of this episode. The so-called "battle" was more like an alley skirmish; and the end assassination was unclear and poorly explained. IMO, it spent too much time on the former (mock)sisters conversation, and little enough on important summation of threads that have been building for several episodes.

My bet is, after finishing the book, I determine this was the 2nd poorest showing of the series, behind ep03.

IMO, this show needs at least 2 more episodes to finish properly, more likely 3.
Frankly, I would trash this episode altogether, and split this episode and the next into a proper Japanese honor drama instead of this hodge-podge and finale next episode.

I found the pacing in this episode rushed and therefore weak.
Certainly, the ending was so telegraphed as to be a non-cliffhanger.

Not happy.

This is the first episode that I've had issue with the story, not the portrayal or technical aspect.

I really didnt expect such blundering story-wise this late in what has been a really exceptionally good piece. Yes, I did remember what happened from years ago, but I expected a lot more depth than we got, and certainly more meaning. Also, by cutting to credits at the point they did wastes every last bit of drama that has been building up for the previous 9 episodes.
Foolish waste of story build-up. There should have been at least 7 more minutes of emotion. To build for 9 hours, then chop off the culmination in 1/2 second is; the characters deserved better.

**Sir Honkers** · April 17th, 2024, 11:50 PM

E02 of Fallout. probably the best TV adaption of a video game I've see. I thought Walter Goggins would steal the show, but Aaron Moten is a serious contender.

**Rogerbh** · April 18th, 2024, 01:50 AM

I agree that Shogun seemingly is rushing to the end, much like the last three seasons of Game of Thrones.

I guess I should be glad they had the budget to get it this far......

April 17th, 2024, 06:06 AM	#7331
cylnz Vintage Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,140 Thanks: 26,068 Thanked 39,685 Times in 3,121 Posts	Shogun ep09 spoilers As overwhelmingly pleased as I was with Shogun ep08; I did not find ep09 to be nearly as compelling. Mariko's continually courting death for no discernable good reason, or not reason enough, wasnt as remarkable as her death in either the book (which I have already started rereading after 40 something years) nor is it a poigniant as her death in the Chamberlain mini series. I was not pleased with the overall juvenile tone of this episode. The so-called "battle" was more like an alley skirmish; and the end assassination was unclear and poorly explained. IMO, it spent too much time on the former (mock)sisters conversation, and little enough on important summation of threads that have been building for several episodes. My bet is, after finishing the book, I determine this was the 2nd poorest showing of the series, behind ep03. IMO, this show needs at least 2 more episodes to finish properly, more likely 3. Frankly, I would trash this episode altogether, and split this episode and the next into a proper Japanese honor drama instead of this hodge-podge and finale next episode. I found the pacing in this episode rushed and therefore weak. Certainly, the ending was so telegraphed as to be a non-cliffhanger. Not happy. This is the first episode that I've had issue with the story, not the portrayal or technical aspect. I really didnt expect such blundering story-wise this late in what has been a really exceptionally good piece. Yes, I did remember what happened from years ago, but I expected a lot more depth than we got, and certainly more meaning. Also, by cutting to credits at the point they did wastes every last bit of drama that has been building up for the previous 9 episodes. Foolish waste of story build-up. There should have been at least 7 more minutes of emotion. To build for 9 hours, then chop off the culmination in 1/2 second is; the characters deserved better. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. "How'd you like the my foot in your ass experience" Last edited by cylnz; April 17th, 2024 at 06:12 AM..

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April 17th, 2024, 11:50 PM	#7332
Sir Honkers Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Land Of Glorious Leader Posts: 30,341 Thanks: 286,789 Thanked 386,122 Times in 30,296 Posts	E02 of Fallout. probably the best TV adaption of a video game I've see. I thought Walter Goggins would steal the show, but Aaron Moten is a serious contender.

April 18th, 2024, 01:50 AM	#7333
Rogerbh Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Land of the free within reasonable limitations Posts: 10,900 Thanks: 50,520 Thanked 91,160 Times in 10,748 Posts	I agree that Shogun seemingly is rushing to the end, much like the last three seasons of Game of Thrones. I guess I should be glad they had the budget to get it this far......