Is it true Viagra gives you a permanently hard...

**palo5** · August 22nd, 2011, 07:23 PM

...johnson, but makes it hard to ejaculate?

Is that the reason modern male performers have to jerk off for so long in movies?

Does anyone have experience of this?

**Mal Hombre** · August 22nd, 2011, 07:28 PM

What !! How dare You suggest such a thing ? Why, I ought to....Seriously I always heard that Viagra just increases blood flow to the honourable member,it's probably the Peruvian marching powder that causes the perpetual hard-ons.

**palo5** · August 22nd, 2011, 07:46 PM

hmm..., yes Comrade Mal

The question is whether it prevents natural ejaculation, because clearly a woman is not enough for many of them. They require 5-10 minutes to pet themselves in order to produce sperm, and that's after 20-30 switches between oral/vaginal/anal in X different positions

Is Viagra the cause?

**deepsepia** · August 22nd, 2011, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by palo5

...johnson, but makes it hard to ejaculate?

Is that the reason modern male performers have to jerk off for so long in movies?

Does anyone have experience of this?

Does not seem to make it harder to cum, but enables older guys to perform like younger ones, for whatever reason, younger still cums easier.

So you're seeing male porn performers who are much older than historically would have been able . . . the now imprisoned "Max Hardcore" is 55, for example, and was doing his very dirty business at the half century mark. I assume that Viagra was helping him perform, but it wouldn't help him cum.

**palo5** · August 22nd, 2011, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by deepsepia

Does not seem to make it harder to cum, but enables older guys to perform like younger ones, for whatever reason, younger still cums easier.

So you're seeing male porn performers who are much older than historically would have been able . . . the now imprisoned "Max Hardcore" is 55, for example, and was doing his very dirty business at the half century mark. I assume that Viagra was helping him perform, but it wouldn't help him cum.

But people like Alban Ceray have no difficulty, but younger performers seem to spend years jerking off

Is Viagra the problem?

rc_riddle · August 22nd, 2011, 08:17 PM

viagra is just a mixture of amil nitrate and some herbal placebo. Amyl nitrate is, as most of us know, sold as poppers. In chemical/medical terms, it is an accellerant i.e. it makes the heart beat faster.
I have come across it many times, in the chemical industry where it is used as an antidote to chemical poisoning. An antidote for cyanide poisoning, for instance, is amyl nitrate and an emmetic. The emmetic makes you sick and the amyl nitrate increses your heart rate. Sorry if I'm being pedantic, guys!

**deepsepia** · August 22nd, 2011, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by palo5

But people like Alban Ceray have no difficulty, but younger performers seem to spend years jerking off

Is Viagra the problem?

Male porn performers, are, by selection rather "unusual", and often mixing an array of medications. Guys who cum too soon are irritating and useless for directors, and so are unwanted. With the supply of would-be woodies vastly outnumbering the demand, you're seeing an unusual selection . . . the anatomy of tumescence is kinda strange to begin with, and these are unusual examples-- hard to know what's going on with any particular guy you've seen on film (though the very red flushed faces are a give-away for Viagra).

They are also reportedly taking VERY large doses of Viagra (100 mg is the normal max dose, there are reports that these dudes are taking many times that); at very high doses, who knows?

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Originally Posted by rc_riddle

viagra is just a mixture of amil nitrate and some herbal placebo.

Viagra a different chemical than amyl, much narrower in spectrum. Amyl does effect some of the same pathways, but does a host of other things that are very different. Viagra (sildenafil) is a PDE5 inhibitor, acting on one particular enzyme, amyl is a much more general vasodilator.

wowser · September 5th, 2011, 06:53 PM

Doesn't do much for me (yes I still have it) but my erectile problem is more mental than physical.

My late wife (yes I was married and no she didn't know) was on Viagra for a few years for her lung problems - if the postman knew what was in those little black bags he delivered....

When she died I was left with lots of the stuff which I used as entrance to - erm - parties (nudge nudge wink wink).

Fantazmaster · September 5th, 2011, 08:13 PM

Ahem,Viagra works as advertised and does not interference with the natural course of things.Fortunately,although I am in the mid-50's I don't need Viagra at all.Besides it gives one one Hell of a headache!

**dbailey** · September 5th, 2011, 10:54 PM

As other learnes peeps have said, viagrd is a PDE5 inhibiitor and increases blood flow into the penis when under stimulation resulting in a level 4 errection. Vigra dosn't interfere with nervous innervation but acts like a local NO (nitric oxide) donor and hence a specific vasodilator.

The nervous pathways of errection and ejaculation are separate and it is entirely possible to have a full orgasm from a flaccid or detumescent penis.

If viagra is taken and there in no mechnical stimulation or errotic thoughts an errection does not take place....it needs to work alongside either sexual stimulation or fluffing in order to give the grade 4 stiffy. Cialis and Levitra work the same way but having differing absorption and elimination half lives

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August 22nd, 2011, 07:46 PM	#3
palo5 Former Staff Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 16,579 Thanks: 452,836 Thanked 222,657 Times in 16,567 Posts	hmm..., yes Comrade Mal The question is whether it prevents natural ejaculation, because clearly a woman is not enough for many of them. They require 5-10 minutes to pet themselves in order to produce sperm, and that's after 20-30 switches between oral/vaginal/anal in X different positions Is Viagra the cause?

August 22nd, 2011, 08:17 PM	#6
rc_riddle Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 235 Thanks: 1,052 Thanked 1,462 Times in 217 Posts	viagra is just a mixture of amil nitrate and some herbal placebo. Amyl nitrate is, as most of us know, sold as poppers. In chemical/medical terms, it is an accellerant i.e. it makes the heart beat faster. I have come across it many times, in the chemical industry where it is used as an antidote to chemical poisoning. An antidote for cyanide poisoning, for instance, is amyl nitrate and an emmetic. The emmetic makes you sick and the amyl nitrate increses your heart rate. Sorry if I'm being pedantic, guys!

September 5th, 2011, 08:13 PM	#9
Fantazmaster Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 54 Thanks: 1,734 Thanked 537 Times in 53 Posts	Ahem,Viagra works as advertised and does not interference with the natural course of things.Fortunately,although I am in the mid-50's I don't need Viagra at all.Besides it gives one one Hell of a headache!

September 5th, 2011, 10:54 PM	#10
dbailey Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Wharfedale, Yorkshire, UK Posts: 2,298 Thanks: 137,964 Thanked 24,965 Times in 2,218 Posts	As other learnes peeps have said, viagrd is a PDE5 inhibiitor and increases blood flow into the penis when under stimulation resulting in a level 4 errection. Vigra dosn't interfere with nervous innervation but acts like a local NO (nitric oxide) donor and hence a specific vasodilator. The nervous pathways of errection and ejaculation are separate and it is entirely possible to have a full orgasm from a flaccid or detumescent penis. If viagra is taken and there in no mechnical stimulation or errotic thoughts an errection does not take place....it needs to work alongside either sexual stimulation or fluffing in order to give the grade 4 stiffy. Cialis and Levitra work the same way but having differing absorption and elimination half lives