Left Wing, Right Wing, Chicken Wing - Page 3

**Pepper II** · December 11th, 2012, 02:47 AM

I pretty much agree with everything estreeter said in his original post. If I had my way I'd ban political parties outright. This system just creates an "us against them" atmosphere in which very little constructive progress is made. I generally lean towards the right and being a patriotic Yank I value the freedom and protection afforded by our Constitution. Seeing it being attacked and picked apart sickens me and our current "leader" reminds me just a little too much of a certain over-enthusiastic German of 70 odd years ago.

**otokonomidori** · December 11th, 2012, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by lothian

I stopped voting once I realised that :

b ) Joe public will always vote for the set of lies that threatens their personal comfort the least .
B ) The poor the weak and the vulnerable will always be scapegoats for the mistakes and greed of the the rich, and powerful .

You would need to be crazy not to vote for your own personal comfort.

The "poor weak and vulnerable" make mistakes and are greedy too - they deserve all they get - Losers!!

**buttsie** · December 11th, 2012, 06:43 AM

I'd describe myself as a left leaning fence sitter which is why I have never voted for the same party in both houses of our parliament in any 1 election.

We had a 3rd party the Australian democrats in our 2 house system that was set-up to simply keep the bigger parties honest with what they tried to get legislated

Curiously the Democrats were a left leaning / middle of the road party formed by a former Liberal politician in the 70s - the liberals were the employers party - closest thing we have to right wing party

As they described themselves they were the first party in Australia who actually thought about the enviroment with regards to their policy but they werent obsessed by it like the greens.

It was a balancing give and take act.

Unfortunately personal ambition and divisions after 20+ years playing this buffer zone party led to their complete obliteration and now we're left with the 2 big parties and a handful of independents who hold the balance of power.

Think i'll call in sick next election even if it is compulsory

Politics can best be summed up by a previous State election

We had a party called family first which was an off shoot of the employer party the liberals

So the main opposition labour - the peoples party (LOL) - starting using slogans and got t-shirts printed that said 'put your family first' - fooled many voters into voting for the wrong party they loathed.

Showed me all too well whats really at stake when we vote and it isnt our well being.

Estreeter · December 11th, 2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by palo5

Man, I feel so cheated - there is no option for ultra-red, pinko, capitalist-defying, card-carrying, socialist, atheist, big-mac regurgitating Commies

You're not cheated palo, in fact I did add ultra-red, pinko, capitalist-defying, card-carrying, socialist, atheist, big-mac regurgitating Commies to the poll before I started the thread , but

then I would have had to add Tree Hugging, Greenie, Welfare Sponge, Greenpeace Activist also

. That would have been going too far and caused me a lot of work in removing posts I disagree with

...... Now I work on the forum free of charge (community service

), I can't work for free too much as I'd have to start charging for my services being the greedy little capitalist pig I am

**buttsie** · December 11th, 2012, 09:17 AM

The future if the big corporations and alpha morons are ever defeated

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative

Some will see it as a form of socialism no doubt

Most successful co-operatives are relatively small scale

In Australia in recent decades we've seen building societies,credit unions and
eventually community banks trying to counter the big banks who are corporate cunts of the highest order being the most profitable banks in the world at our expense.

**scoundrel** · December 11th, 2012, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fleetwood77

The "poor weak and vulnerable" make mistakes and are greedy too - they deserve all they get - Losers!!

But what your own life be like if you got all you deserve, Fleeters? Hopefully not quite as bad as this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ECZW9R16EY

**otokonomidori** · December 11th, 2012, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoundrel

But what your own life be like if you got all you deserve, Fleeters?

I did get what I deserved I suppose, and God knows it's not all good...but I'm not blaming the rich for any of my misfortunes - I managed to screw things up by myself.

Estreeter · December 11th, 2012, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fleetwood77

- I managed to screw things up by myself.

Easily fixed mate... If ya can be assed

Start the fleetwood77 alliance party

On second thoughts, maybe not

But I'd have voted for ya just for the plebs and chavs policies

**imtrying** · December 12th, 2012, 12:25 AM

I'm a proud Lefty who loves boneless wings dripping with honey bar-b-q sauce.

**knobby109** · December 12th, 2012, 07:32 AM

I'm socially just to the left of centre .I support healthcare and much of the welfare provisions as being an indispensable part of a civilised society.I accept that with welfare provision there will always be some who exploit it but in fact it's a very small proportion which don't justify withdrawing it.A safety net doesn't stop you taking risks, why should it?
But economically I'm slightly to the right. If the economy isn't working then there's no money for the social side.Which makes me a "one nation Tory"
I do object to those at the top giving themselves huge bonuses at the same time as shedding jobs to cut costs! Good remuneration is fine but some packages are stupid.

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December 11th, 2012, 06:43 AM	#23
buttsie Porn Archeologist Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: earth Posts: 12,714 Thanks: 92,252 Thanked 241,301 Times in 12,746 Posts	I'd describe myself as a left leaning fence sitter which is why I have never voted for the same party in both houses of our parliament in any 1 election. We had a 3rd party the Australian democrats in our 2 house system that was set-up to simply keep the bigger parties honest with what they tried to get legislated Curiously the Democrats were a left leaning / middle of the road party formed by a former Liberal politician in the 70s - the liberals were the employers party - closest thing we have to right wing party As they described themselves they were the first party in Australia who actually thought about the enviroment with regards to their policy but they werent obsessed by it like the greens. It was a balancing give and take act. Unfortunately personal ambition and divisions after 20+ years playing this buffer zone party led to their complete obliteration and now we're left with the 2 big parties and a handful of independents who hold the balance of power. Think i'll call in sick next election even if it is compulsory Politics can best be summed up by a previous State election We had a party called family first which was an off shoot of the employer party the liberals So the main opposition labour - the peoples party (LOL) - starting using slogans and got t-shirts printed that said 'put your family first' - fooled many voters into voting for the wrong party they loathed. Showed me all too well whats really at stake when we vote and it isnt our well being. Last edited by buttsie; December 11th, 2012 at 08:46 AM.. Reason: comment

December 11th, 2012, 09:17 AM	#25
buttsie Porn Archeologist Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: earth Posts: 12,714 Thanks: 92,252 Thanked 241,301 Times in 12,746 Posts	The future if the big corporations and alpha morons are ever defeated http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative Some will see it as a form of socialism no doubt Most successful co-operatives are relatively small scale In Australia in recent decades we've seen building societies,credit unions and eventually community banks trying to counter the big banks who are corporate cunts of the highest order being the most profitable banks in the world at our expense. Last edited by buttsie; December 11th, 2012 at 09:26 AM.. Reason: adding comment

December 11th, 2012, 02:47 AM	#21
Pepper II Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sunny South Florida Posts: 7,853 Thanks: 163,978 Thanked 119,257 Times in 7,642 Posts	I pretty much agree with everything estreeter said in his original post. If I had my way I'd ban political parties outright. This system just creates an "us against them" atmosphere in which very little constructive progress is made. I generally lean towards the right and being a patriotic Yank I value the freedom and protection afforded by our Constitution. Seeing it being attacked and picked apart sickens me and our current "leader" reminds me just a little too much of a certain over-enthusiastic German of 70 odd years ago.

December 12th, 2012, 12:25 AM	#29
imtrying Vintage Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,068 Thanks: 14,832 Thanked 17,242 Times in 1,043 Posts	I'm a proud Lefty who loves boneless wings dripping with honey bar-b-q sauce.

December 12th, 2012, 07:32 AM	#30
knobby109 Vintage Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,736 Thanks: 144 Thanked 14,338 Times in 1,702 Posts	I'm socially just to the left of centre .I support healthcare and much of the welfare provisions as being an indispensable part of a civilised society.I accept that with welfare provision there will always be some who exploit it but in fact it's a very small proportion which don't justify withdrawing it.A safety net doesn't stop you taking risks, why should it? But economically I'm slightly to the right. If the economy isn't working then there's no money for the social side.Which makes me a "one nation Tory" I do object to those at the top giving themselves huge bonuses at the same time as shedding jobs to cut costs! Good remuneration is fine but some packages are stupid.