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View Poll Results: Leave The EU or stay in The EU?
Leave The EU. 336 54.02%
Stay in The EU. 245 39.39%
I don't care either way/won't be voting. 28 4.50%
I'd rather not say. 13 2.09%
Voters: 622. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-08-2018, 03:10 PM   #3901
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That's got my vote !
Why am I not surprised?
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That's got my vote !
What?! No deep fried Mars bars for lunch?
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May said Back her plan or she will resign. No need because if she uses the plan as reported she is toast. At a time when we need strong leadership we have that sad streak of ordure.
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David Davies resignation. Good man.
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David Davies resignation. Good man.

I do agree with his summing up

In his resignation letter, Mr Davis told Mrs May that "the current trend of policy and tactics" was making it "look less and less likely" that the UK would leave the customs union and single market.
He said he was "unpersuaded" that the government's negotiating approach "will not just lead to further demands for concessions" from Brussels.
Mr Davis, who was appointed Brexit Secretary in 2016, said: "The general direction of policy will leave us in at best a weak negotiating position, and possibly an inescapable one."



We voted to leave and I think the watered down version we are heading towards compromises too much, it is certainly not what we voted for.

May fucked up her own position by calling an unnecessary general election, I do not trust her to negotiate a good deal, she is adopting the Neville Chamberlain approach and giving ground way too easily, I'd love to play poker with her. I am shit at cards but I'd beat her any day


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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44761416
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Boris Johnson has launched a scathing attack on Theresa May's Brexit strategy, saying the "dream is dying, suffocated by needless self-doubt".

In his letter resigning as foreign secretary he claimed the prime minister was leading the UK into a "semi-Brexit" with the "status of a colony".

His resignation came hours after Brexit Secretary David Davis quit the cabinet.

Mrs May insists her plans are the "the best way to honour" the Brexit vote, amid a deepening political crisis.

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Just cancel the stupid thing
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Time will tell whether Mrs May can pass her proposal for Britain's negotiating position through Parliament. I am indifferent to what becomes of her premiership if she is not able to carry the vote though failing to win a vote of confidence can only have one outcome. But in a wider context, she tried hard to produce a Brexit plan which would carry enough Tory support to get through, but failed. I see no likelihood that the Tories can unite behind any other plan - they are like Goldilocks and the Three Bears, and whatever else if proposed will either be too hard or too soft, leading to new schisms.

It is hard to see any solution to such an impasse except yet another General Election. Unless the Tories pick a credible leader (David Davis probably) they are not going to win.
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Just cancel the stupid thing
Which of course is what more than half of the parliamentarians have been conniving at ever since the referendum. The concept of honouring the outcome of a democratic vote is very unmutual in the EU. The strategy has been to obstruct and frustrate the Brexit process every step of the way and hope the voters get tired of it and knuckle under.

Not me.
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Which of course is what more than half of the parliamentarians have been conniving at ever since the referendum. The concept of honouring the outcome of a democratic vote is very unmutual in the EU. The strategy has been to obstruct and frustrate the Brexit process every step of the way and hope the voters get tired of it and knuckle under.

Not me.



Scoundrel, as much as I admire and back your taste in vintage pornography, I'm afraid I must disagree with you on this. (You do seem like you'd be good fun/conversation over a few down at the local!).

The fiasco that was the Brexit referendum of June 23rd 2016 was a non binding one from the onset, because of one major characteristic of the democratic system of this country, and that has been inherently part of our traditions since Charles I : the sovereignty of Parliament.

This is inherent to the British "Rule of Law" that (should-but in some cases doesn't) govern our Nation.( If you want to learn more about that, my daughter's boyfriend introduced me to a youtube channel called Count Dankula, he raises a fair few good points in a video entitled "The Actual State of the UK") but I digress...


The way our Nation's political system works is based in part on a millenium of history, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that's what people who voted for Brexit wanted? To "preserve Britain's History"?

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