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Old October 26th, 2017, 09:50 PM   #2601
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Here in the East Bay our main highway is I-880. Said freeway is characterized by very heavy traffic and large numbers of rude and reckless drivers. Few of us wish to rush into the unknown perils of death. But, I have noted that dying will spare me from the necessity of ever driving I-880 again, or filing a tax return, or listening to/watching another political ad, or hearing any more about the antics of one Donald J. Trump.
I have no idea what you're trying to say but I still liked your post.
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Old November 2nd, 2017, 01:26 PM   #2602
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Old November 5th, 2017, 03:31 PM   #2603
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Default Joint Chiefs say invasion 'only way' to totally disarm N Korea

A Pentagon assessment has declared the only way to completely destroy all parts of North Korea's nuclear weapons programme is through a ground invasion.

Rear Admiral Michael Dumont expressed the opinion on behalf of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in a letter to Congressman Ted Lieu.

Mr Dumont said calculating "even the roughest" potential casualty figures would be extremely difficult.

He also gave some detail on what the first hours of a war would involve.

"The only way to 'locate and destroy - with complete certainty - all components of North Korea's nuclear weapons programs' is through a ground invasion," he wrote in response to Congressman Lieu's questions about a potential conflict.

The risks involved included a potential nuclear counter-attack by North Korea while US forces attempted to disable its "deeply buried, underground facilities", he said.

"A classified briefing is the best venue for a detailed discussion," he added.

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A Pentagon assessment has declared the only way to completely destroy all parts of North Korea's nuclear weapons programme is through a ground invasion.

Rear Admiral Michael Dumont expressed the opinion on behalf of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in a letter to Congressman Ted Lieu.

Mr Dumont said calculating "even the roughest" potential casualty figures would be extremely difficult.

He also gave some detail on what the first hours of a war would involve.

"The only way to 'locate and destroy - with complete certainty - all components of North Korea's nuclear weapons programs' is through a ground invasion," he wrote in response to Congressman Lieu's questions about a potential conflict.

The risks involved included a potential nuclear counter-attack by North Korea while US forces attempted to disable its "deeply buried, underground facilities", he said.

"A classified briefing is the best venue for a detailed discussion," he added.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41878123
And thats exactly why N Korea has nukes, otherwise they would be libya,syria,iraq-ed in a heartbeat.
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Old November 6th, 2017, 08:12 AM   #2605
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Ah, another mass shooting in the US. At least this one took place in a church, so the thoughts and prayers thing is easy to facilitate, and the funerals can easily be scheduled back-to-back over a few days. So, here's the question. If you're going to die in a mass shooting, what is your preferred location? Elementary school, high school, movie theatre, night club, college campus, outdoor concert, or some other location?
The NRA are going to be all over this one,According to Police"A local resident" shot the bastard with a rifle causing Him to drop His weapon and mortally wounding Him.This was of course,After 27 people had died..
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Ah, another mass shooting in the US. At least this one took place in a church, so the thoughts and prayers thing is easy to facilitate, and the funerals can easily be scheduled back-to-back over a few days. So, here's the question. If you're going to die in a mass shooting, what is your preferred location? Elementary school, high school, movie theatre, night club, college campus, outdoor concert, or some other location?
The gun-owners-discussion is quite useless in the US !

If the homicide rate is more than the birthrate, the problem will be solved in the US soon or later.
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The gun-owners-discussion is quite useless in the US !

If the homicide rate is more than the birthrate, the problem will be solved in the US soon or later.
So homicide didn't even crack the top 10 causes of death in the US. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/282929.php

So there were 2,626,418 deaths in the US in 2014. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm and 3,988,076 births in that year. So if only 1,361,658 more people were gunned down in the street, your statement would make sense. Since our gun murder rate is 11-12 thousand a year, we would only have to increase by over a 100 times to make your post valid.

I am sure that we will soon have another occurrence of a mental retard killing people so prepare to vent again in the near future.
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a mental retard killing people
He served in the Air Force before being dishonorably discharged, how do you suppose this "mental disability" got past the examination you receive when enlisting, and overlooked by all his superiors while he was in the service, before being court martialed for assaulting his wife and child?

His in-laws were members of the church, though not in attendance that day. I suspect they were his most likely targets. He could have just gone to their house any time, but he planned on getting them at church and taking as many more with them as he could. Seems more a case of domestic terrorism, he wanted to terrorize the church and the community as well as kill his in-laws.
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Old November 6th, 2017, 02:41 PM   #2609
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So homicide didn't even crack the top 10 causes of death in the US. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/282929.php

So there were 2,626,418 deaths in the US in 2014. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm and 3,988,076 births in that year. So if only 1,361,658 more people were gunned down in the street, your statement would make sense. Since our gun murder rate is 11-12 thousand a year, we would only have to increase by over a 100 times to make your post valid.

I am sure that we will soon have another occurrence of a mental retard killing people so prepare to vent again in the near future.
I'm well aware of this argument, it has been cynically !!!!!
BTW: Don't forget the dead shot by police officers and some who are protecting "their ground" in some US-countries. .

But - IMHO - the US is on the best way to let it will be coming true.
It reminds me anyhow at the death rate of a civil war in some other states.
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This is a thread for political stuff so please don't let it devolve in to one on gun control and such. IMO the discussion so for is good as it is discussing the politics of what has happened.
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