The Military History Thread

[palo5]

Comments, anecdotes, facts about Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, elsewhere?

Here is a place to post them, VEF-friends

[palo5]

This post is better answered here, imho

Originally Posted by savage560

...To the point,he told me that IHO, every average Vietnamese ,could not be trusted,& felt the vast majority hated American presence there, so you had to beware...

I believe that absolutely. The same was/is true in Afghanistan. No one wants to be ruled by a foreign power

You have the clock, but we have the time, as they say

[Estreeter]

I really really really like a real good and worthwhile war

Like the war between men and women that's been going on since Adam and Eve

But I liked this war



THE WAR OF THE ROSES

There's one scene where Kathleen Turner throws a pot at Michael Douglas Sends shivers up my spine, brings back the memory of me having a pasta strainer thrown at me

And the end of the film, where they kill each other

[palo5]

Originally Posted by Estreeter

I really really really like a real good and worthwhile war

Like the war between men and women that's been going on since Adam and Eve

Man, haven't you machos won that yet?

hehehe!

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by palo5

Man, haven't you machos won that yet?

hehehe!

Umm, I don't want it to end

[Mal Hombre]

In 480BC,After the epic last stand of Leonidas and the Three Hundred Spartans (Plus 1700 other Greeks),The Spartans put a bounty on the head of Ephialtes,the traitor Who betrayed Them.He was actually killed in a private quarrel but the Spartans,Being sticklers in these matters,Sent the money to His killer anyway.

[palo5]

It's said that up to 200.000 Vietnam vets have committed suicide since the war. Other studies/reports say about 5.000 vets kill themselves each year, a ratio of 1,7:1 to 'expected' suicides

No national statistic reports this

[bombermouse]

Originally Posted by palo5

It's said that up to 200.000 Vietnam vets have committed suicide since the war. Other studies/reports say about 5.000 vets kill themselves each year, a ratio of 1,7:1 to 'expected' suicides

No national statistic reports this

The USA is funny that way Palo5. You're a fair-haired hero when it's time to sign up and while the casualties mount up. Your country can't do enough for you until you bring your problems home. Then you're a do-nothing drag on the system that needs to shape up and quit whining. The country is lukewarm about tending to any physical problems related to your service and downright hostile to treating any mental problems. We don't mind spending trillions to create veterans that need help but we resent every penny spent to help them when they get home.

[palo5]

Originally Posted by bombermouse

The USA is funny that way...Your country can't do enough for you until you bring your problems home...

The US is by no means unique there. But I thought it had to be said

[mirbat]

Originally Posted by palo5

It's said that up to 200.000 Vietnam vets have committed suicide since the war. Other studies/reports say about 5.000 vets kill themselves each year, a ratio of 1,7:1 to 'expected' suicides

No national statistic reports this

That's what happens when you take a guy out of a warzone and drop him back into civilian life with no chance to adjust. The cry of `you weren't there man' is very true because nobody at home has any understanding of what you were going through.

The British army has learned a lesson from this. Guys coming back from the middle East or any Warzone now go to Cyprus for about a week just to make sure they can adjust. any that shows signs of depression, manic behaviour or just need watching are kept there until they can get treatment.