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Old June 3rd, 2013, 06:24 PM   #21
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How does it work with updates these days?

I still have an Office97 CD and used it without problems until about 2005. Then people started sending me documents that it couldn't read - every time they add a feature, that's one more thing the old packages can't handle. It froze my system several times
So far, it works OK. Over the last year or so I've been getting a few messages when opening some .docs that there are some "incompatabilities" (or something) but, when the document is opened it seems to be just fine. No problem as of yet with inserted .jpg, charts, graphs or any normal inserts. How long will that last? Don't know but I'm hoping it lasts another 5 years or so.

I've also got an old CD of Office 97 around somewhere. Hope I don't have to buy another.

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I didn't want to pay for a new suite, or even just for Word, so I got the OpenOffice stuff. It's worked well so far
As I've said, I've experimented with open office a bit and tried to use it more (I'd get rid of Word if I could). But when I open a .doc that someone sends me its just a pain to get the formatting correct (if you even know what thats supposed to be). Tried to deal with it a few times a while back and finally said "Enough, I'm not dealing with this!" I think thats where most everyone in the industry is nowadays.

But, get thousands of academics and publishing houses around the world to change and I'd be happy to change.
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But, get thousands of academics and publishing houses around the world to change and I'd be happy to change.
Well, if Word 2002 or so still serves you, you'll be fine with OpenOffice because it's years more advanced
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Well, if Word 2002 or so still serves you, you'll be fine with OpenOffice because it's years more advanced
I'm sure Open Office is more advanced. And when it opens a .doc natively and saves natively with no problems at all then I'll be more than happy to switch. But until then, when I don't have to worry about doing anything more than reading or commenting on some part of a document, then I'm stuck with Word.
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Thank you very much guys for your replies and feedback.

I'm happy to see there are other Xubuntu (Xfce) users around; I love Ubuntu, but I love Xubuntu more, same way Windows XP was OK for me but I loved Windows 2000 back in the day.

I don't know what to say about all the Word/OpenOffice formatting issue, I guess it has to do with Word being modified on every new version and all the other office suites trying to figure out how to deal with it. Although a few times I ran into small formatting issues that were solved just copying/installing on Linux the same true type fonts from Windows. I must state that this only happened to a few non-technical users I've met.
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I have Fedora 14 (I'm too lazy at the moment to upgrade ) + Windows XP (I like XP, won't be upgrading in the near future). I use Linux for everyday things, Windows for gaming/some programs (3ds Max for an example).

I understand, why people like Windows. It's easy, it's comfortable.
But it is slow. Slower than Linux. And in Windows you can't interact with the system so well, if something bad happens, then it is probably easier to reinstall Windows, but in Linux it is much easier to find the problem. Linux is for guys, who know what they are doing with the computer; Windows on the other hand is basically for everyone.

And Linux can run many Windows programs/games in Wine.
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Yes. openSUSE. Don't use any other system now. It's rock solid, private and fast.

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Been awhile for this thread.

Anyway, we've been having this discussion about Windows 10 and, a little while ago, due to someone's suggestion, I decided it would be a good idea to reinstall Ubuntu and start relearning it. So far all seems pretty good. No driver problems, pretty fast and seems to do what I need to do. Still have Win 7 on another partition so I use that when I need to but I'm finding the need for Windoze is becoming less and less. May actually get away from it one of these days.

But I do have a question.

Been using Windows Explorer for years so I'm pretty familiar with it. I like (or am at least used to) its ability to move or copy a file (or files) from the right pane to the left with a simple click and drag. Pretty simple.

But in Ubuntu version of Explorer you don't seem to be able to click and drag from the right pane to the left. It seems you have to right click on the file (or files), select Move To and then double click your way to the folder where you want to place the file. It works but, at least to me, is pretty clunky and more work than is necessary. Much easier to have your destination folder visible in the left pane and the folder where the file is in the right pane and then just click and drag. Hope that makes sense to everyone.

So my question. Is there a way to do the same thing in Ubuntu? Or do I need to install one of their other "Explorer" options? Or, is there another version of Linux that handles this task more along the same method as Windows?

Just wondering as I really don't like Ubuntu's method as I understand it.

Thanks in advance!
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Been awhile for this thread.

Anyway, we've been having this discussion about Windows 10 and, a little while ago, due to someone's suggestion, I decided it would be a good idea to reinstall Ubuntu and start relearning it. So far all seems pretty good. No driver problems, pretty fast and seems to do what I need to do. Still have Win 7 on another partition so I use that when I need to but I'm finding the need for Windoze is becoming less and less. May actually get away from it one of these days.

But I do have a question.

Been using Windows Explorer for years so I'm pretty familiar with it. I like (or am at least used to) its ability to move or copy a file (or files) from the right pane to the left with a simple click and drag. Pretty simple.

But in Ubuntu version of Explorer you don't seem to be able to click and drag from the right pane to the left. It seems you have to right click on the file (or files), select Move To and then double click your way to the folder where you want to place the file. It works but, at least to me, is pretty clunky and more work than is necessary. Much easier to have your destination folder visible in the left pane and the folder where the file is in the right pane and then just click and drag. Hope that makes sense to everyone.

So my question. Is there a way to do the same thing in Ubuntu? Or do I need to install one of their other "Explorer" options? Or, is there another version of Linux that handles this task more along the same method as Windows?

Just wondering as I really don't like Ubuntu's method as I understand it.

Thanks in advance!
Yes, this is one area where Canonical oversimplified the Unity interface and the Linux file structure. In the default file manager, Nautilus (FOSS people get a little cutesy with names, IMHO), you're kind of limited to drive root folders and the pre-installed file "category" root folders, Documents, Downloads, etc. So this function got lost in the shuffle; you're not doing anything wrong. Thunar allows for subfolder opening on the left side and file dragging. Use "sudo apt-get install thunar" at a terminal screen, and it should also be in the Ubuntu Software Center, as well. That should take care of most of the lost functionality from Windows Explorer, and it even supports Shift-clicking for File Move.
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I have Fedora 14 (I'm too lazy at the moment to upgrade ) + Windows XP (I like XP, won't be upgrading in the near future). I use Linux for everyday things, Windows for gaming/some programs (3ds Max for an example).

I understand, why people like Windows. It's easy, it's comfortable.
But it is slow. Slower than Linux. And in Windows you can't interact with the system so well, if something bad happens, then it is probably easier to reinstall Windows, but in Linux it is much easier to find the problem. Linux is for guys, who know what they are doing with the computer; Windows on the other hand is basically for everyone.

And Linux can run many Windows programs/games in Wine.
Don't forget PlayOnLinux, an interface for Wine, that I've used to get beginning users onto iTunes. Also interesting is the fact that everyone complains about having to use the terminal in Linux. Now I understand that argument, working in Windows professionally for two decades. But, if you have to really dig into Windows very much at all, such as the lengthy procedure I posted in the Windows 10 thread to force an undesired Windows Update off of your computer, the Command Line or Powershell in Windows is a requirement, as well. So, dealing with Microsoft just isn't more user friendly.
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