Why men can't – and shouldn't – stop staring at women

[Sir Honkers]

Originally Posted by billybunter

Do you know Rick anti porn USA?? Or is that reply a joke.

T'were a joke. Or at least a feeble attempt at being droll. I tend to forget that doesn't come across all that well on the interweb.

[pharoahegypt]

Back in my old sex shop days.... I never ever had a guy come in and ask if he could test out a sex doll, or just jerk off.......fortunately......

But i had several women enter the various shops i ran who wanted to test out vibrators while i watched, or even have me help them do it a few times.....

so women can be just as naughty minded as any guy.. given the chance, or opportunity... Some women just love to be either watched or appreciated for how they look; you just have to find the right moment.. or let them give you a hint before you tell them.....

[deepsepia]

Interesting follow up column by a women in todays Globe & Mail, she was following up on Ian Browne's column, which I posted at the top of this thread

Originally Posted by The male gaze, and why I miss it

Men don’t look at me the way they used to. In general, they don’t look at me at all. This is what happens when a woman turns 40 (50, 60 etc.). It’s a fact of life.

In theory, this is supposed to be an exhilarating passage in the life of a woman. At last we’re liberated from the tyranny of the male gaze! We don’t have to care what men think of us any more. We’re free to be our true, authentic self. We can wear a red hat.

In reality, it sucks. I’d give a lot for men to look at me like that again.

Two weeks ago, Ian Brown wrote a marvellous, candid, brave account in these pages in praise of girl-watching. It was a paean to the power of young female erotic beauty, from the point of view of a middle-aged man. It was brave because men aren’t supposed to look, especially if they’re older (dirty old men!), and they certainly aren’t supposed to talk about it, unless they confess they’re deeply ashamed of themselves. Some of the reactions to his piece bordered on the hysterical. Readers accused Mr. Brown of moral turpitude. Some conjured up the bad old days when women ran a gauntlet of hooting males at every construction site. Some practically equated his (purely theoretical) appreciation of younger women with sexual assault.

I was ticked off, too, but for a different reason. In his essay, Mr. Brown referred offhandedly to a woman he knows who just turned 50, “and is still attractive.” Still? What a slap.

The trouble with our repressed, Anglo-Saxon and drearily indoctrinated culture, where we’ve all had the evils of sexual harassment pounded into us for years and where even the mildest flirtation in the workplace has become impermissible, is that we’ve shut out an emotionally enriching part of life. This is the mutual appreciation of men for women, and vice versa. The French, who regard our mores as shockingly stifled, know how to do this. It’s as essential to them as eating well. In French culture, even women of a certain age are still considered erotically attractive. Christine Lagarde may run the International Monetary Fund, but she’s a woman who obviously enjoys her femininity. I’m certain men flirt with her. Still.

Older women also enjoy lustful thoughts, even age-inappropriate ones. I blush to say I sometimes encounter the handsome twentysomething son of some friend and secretly dissolve into a pile of goo. That chiselled jaw, those washboard abs, that lean physique and fine head of hair – no wonder one’s knees go weak. The reason we don’t confess to these attractions is not because people will think we’re predatory. It’s because they’ll think we’re ridiculous.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle2393518/

[buttsie]

Its an interesting one

I often pass young fit gorgeous girls when I'm out exercising 6am -8.00am but i pay no notice apart from the unavoidable hello/smile or pretend i'm in the zone and say nothing because all too often the reaction is like article one says regardless of what you say or how you say it...My rule of thumb is look into the distance over/under/around....
speak if your spoken to

I think the 2nd article is pretty true as when I was doing door to door for a charity 5 years ago the 40+ professional ladies ie nurses etc werent backward in putting their best foot forward because they obviously worked long hours / shift work...very playful...made a dull monotonous draining job very interesting..
I blame the black suit I used to wear as i havent had that reaction since...LOL.

Pick the right suburbs and those over 40s look very stylish and in shape

Get the wrong ones and you'd be begging to do Olive from on the buses NOW
The really strange thing is that goes for both rich or poor suburbs

Facelifts arent what their cracked up to be

[billybunter]

There used to be a girl who lived opposite me and she regularly got undressed without closing her blinds. Then she got a boyfriend and the fun stopped

Not that I was looking

[buttsie]

The fun stopped ie The boyfriend started undressing centre stage?

[Jeff Vader]

Originally Posted by deepsepia

Larry David has an exchange like that in the very first "Curb Your Enthusiam" (season 1, episode 1), he's walking into a movie theatre row of seats, and passing by a woman with a very low cut blouse, and she claims he was ogling her chest, to which he replies "you wear that blouse because you want men to look at your shoes?"

Thankfully I work with women who are not 'prudish'. We've had a few frank discussions about lots of topics, one of which was the way people dress and is it appropriate for a guy to check out a female colleague. The general consensus from the women was that a look is fine, staring is pushing it and comments are out. Two of these women have a particularly nice wiggle when they walk, one wears pencil skirts and high heels, the other wears tight-fitting jeans.

Both know exactly what they are doing.

[trailmaster]

Women everywhere like to be looked at. As a previous member said "That's why they dress the way they do" Look at the bikinis women wear now. In my youth you could not see anything, but now the bikinis have so little material in them a woman almost looks nude. I like to look at a woman's butt, especially if the pants she is wearing are loose enough so that her butt bounces and sways. Men everywhere go wild when a really lovely woman passes by, and the woman knows it. So my fellow men keep on looking, just don't hurl any comments that may be derogatory.

[Miss80sPorn]

I love beauty ... for the most part, women are beautiful and I will always take a moment looking
The difference is ... it's not a leering stare

[Motorboater]

Women don't perv at men the same way men perv on women because they know if they want to see you naked, they will get to see you naked.

Originally Posted by Miss80sPorn

I love beauty ... for the most part, women are beautiful and I will always take a moment looking
The difference is ... it's not a leering stare

Hard to do that when you like what you see.