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Old March 25th, 2019, 05:57 PM   #3791
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Am I the only one who thinks that the main that there was no collusion,Is that the Russians couldn't trust Donald J not to Tweet about it..
Or the other conclusion being that any collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government was unnecessary. They gladly did it on their own to secure Trump's election.
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Default Trump hints at payback for 'evil' enemies over Mueller report

President Donald Trump says his enemies who did "evil" and "treasonous things" will be under scrutiny after he was absolved of colluding with Russia.

Speaking in the Oval Office, he said no other president should have to be investigated over "a false narrative".

He spoke a day after the attorney general released a summary of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's completed report.

Mr Trump was hosting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in the White House on Monday when a reporter asked him about the outcome of the Mueller report.

"There's a lot of people out there that have done some very, very evil things, very bad things," Mr Trump said, "I would say treasonous things, against our country."

"And hopefully people that have done such harm to our country, we've gone through a period of really bad things happening.

"Those people will certainly be looked at, I've been looking at them for a long time.

"And I'm saying, 'why haven't they been looked at?' They lied to Congress - many of them, you know who they are - they've' done so many evil things."

Mr Trump did not name the alleged culprits.

He added: "It was a false narrative, it was terrible thing, we can never let this happen to another president again, I can tell you that. I say it very strongly."

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Old March 25th, 2019, 10:30 PM   #3793
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Am I the only one who thinks that the main that there was no collusion,Is that the Russians couldn't trust Donald J not to Tweet about it..
No. In the U.S. it is a majority view.
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Saw an interesting article today asking if Beto, Bernie, and Biden are the best candidates the Democrats can muster. Well, are they?
It depends on what you are looking for. If you want a candidate with a detailed understanding of the inner workings of the American economy and government, there is Liz Warren.

If you want to be certain that our species survives until 2200, there is Jay Inslee.
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"Ok. So. Take a breath, stop reading or thinking about all the “despair porn” all over the place (there are many who already get what I about to say, however) and read this:
Mueller is 500x smarter than any of us could be, at what he does, why Rosenstein picked him over any other person in America to be Special Counsel. He took down and destroyed John Gotti and Manuel Noreiga among many others, and Trump is as dumb as a tree stump ultimately and a bad criminal and huge fraud, financially and otherwise, who lies like a machine gun, he will implode thanks to Mueller and other prosecutors now in charge of many investigations Mueller spread out. I deal in facts and logic, always have, not internet conspiracy theories, it is why I am always so very particular about what I post.
Mueller worked for 22 months, incredibly fast for what he was doing. His indictments told pieces of a giant story. Much of the info redacted at times. There is a reason for this. His purpose & intent was never to take all the threads to a conclusion. He is utterly brilliant and farmed out many things, to EDVA, DC, and SDNY. Some of these moves we know of. Others we do not. I NEVER, EVER considering him or his “report” to be a silver bullet, what is the case however is that the cases he farmed out will be the “cancer” that destroys Trump and many others.
There are at least FIFTEEN KNOWN ONGOING investigations, even more if one includes NY state actions that are indirectly Mueller related. The ones who would nail Kushner & Junior would be SDNY methinks, as well as others ultimately including Trump himself. I believe when the tipping point comes, that Barr, who is an absolute patriot no matter what your opinion is of his conservatism, will sit down with Trump and tell him he needs to go because of a mountain of evidence and reasons. He will NEVER ABIDE BY HAVING A LAWLESS PRESIDENT, WHICH I BELIEVE WILL BE PROVEN VIA SDNY ET AL. Republicans will want to restore order and stop the lunacy when presented with the right kind of evidence, as I have said.
Many people are in danger. It is has been revealed almost 0% what Flynn and Gates have provided in their massive so far secret testimony they gave Mueller. We also only know a small fraction of what Cohen said, so far. There is so much more to come. I am glad this report is done. It is a key step. There is now no longer an insane target on Mueller’s back. Now he spread the criminality he uncovered like cancer into multiple districts and it will and is consuming many people as things unfold. Note that Gates hinted his cooperation is over soon and the DOJ has said many/multiple investigations are ongoing. None of that has changed. SDNY will be explosive. Many more charges for many more people are coming.
Nowhere near the whole story, though some will be new, will be made public via the Mueller Report, much much more will come via other avenues. Tons of info cannot be made public in his report for multiple reasons but can be used to build cases that go way beyond Mueller’s narrow scope, which is what is literally happening now as we move forward. Let us thank Robert Mueller and his 17 prosecutors for being amazing citizens and patriots and spring loading what is to come going forward via all these other avenues and districts as we watch. It is frustrating to wait but within a month or two things will drastically change and we will know far more, beyond the report which is a big start but will only reveal certain things. Many non-directly Russia things will fly out that will be more scandalous than anything. We have seen hints already, Psy Group and so, so much more. Stay tuned. Trump is still cornered and now he cannot stop ANYTHING because there are so many investigations well along in so many places, thanks to Mr. Mueller.
P.S. There are large non public portions of the insane amount of obstruction of justice behavior we don’t even know about yet and may or may not hear via the report. But we will, and it just adds to all else when the time comes for an ending here."
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You have to watch out when the FBI starts investigating political corruption. They have been sending some of our congressmen and state legislators to prison.
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Am I the only one who thinks that the main that there was no collusion,Is that the Russians couldn't trust Donald J not to Tweet about it..
I don't think there was collusion. Consider this, though. Shortly after the meeting was set up, and the campaign was promised "dirt" on Clinton, Trump announced that, very soon, he would be issuing a report showing how corrupt Clinton was. The meeting occurred, but no "dirt" was given; Trump then announced that the report would be delayed.
"No collusion! But, Sweet Jezus, we sure tried!"
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"Leader McConnell -
No collusion. No conspiracy. No obstruction. It’s good news that we can conclusively set aside the notion that the president and his team had somehow participated in Russia’s interference in our electoral process."

So Mitch - NOW you say the Russians DID interfere? Thanks a lot.
BTW - why not release the report? WTF are you hiding Mitch?
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"Ok. So. Take a breath, stop reading or thinking about all the “despair porn” all over the place (there are many who already get what I about to say, however) and read this:
Mueller is 500x smarter than any of us could be, at what he does, why Rosenstein picked him over any other person in America to be Special Counsel. He took down and destroyed John Gotti and Manuel Noreiga among many others, and Trump is as dumb as a tree stump ultimately and a bad criminal and huge fraud, financially and otherwise, who lies like a machine gun, he will implode thanks to Mueller and other prosecutors now in charge of many investigations Mueller spread out. I deal in facts and logic, always have, not internet conspiracy theories, it is why I am always so very particular about what I post.
Mueller worked for 22 months, incredibly fast for what he was doing. His indictments told pieces of a giant story. Much of the info redacted at times. There is a reason for this. His purpose & intent was never to take all the threads to a conclusion. He is utterly brilliant and farmed out many things, to EDVA, DC, and SDNY. Some of these moves we know of. Others we do not. I NEVER, EVER considering him or his “report” to be a silver bullet, what is the case however is that the cases he farmed out will be the “cancer” that destroys Trump and many others.
There are at least FIFTEEN KNOWN ONGOING investigations, even more if one includes NY state actions that are indirectly Mueller related. The ones who would nail Kushner & Junior would be SDNY methinks, as well as others ultimately including Trump himself. I believe when the tipping point comes, that Barr, who is an absolute patriot no matter what your opinion is of his conservatism, will sit down with Trump and tell him he needs to go because of a mountain of evidence and reasons. He will NEVER ABIDE BY HAVING A LAWLESS PRESIDENT, WHICH I BELIEVE WILL BE PROVEN VIA SDNY ET AL. Republicans will want to restore order and stop the lunacy when presented with the right kind of evidence, as I have said.
Many people are in danger. It is has been revealed almost 0% what Flynn and Gates have provided in their massive so far secret testimony they gave Mueller. We also only know a small fraction of what Cohen said, so far. There is so much more to come. I am glad this report is done. It is a key step. There is now no longer an insane target on Mueller’s back. Now he spread the criminality he uncovered like cancer into multiple districts and it will and is consuming many people as things unfold. Note that Gates hinted his cooperation is over soon and the DOJ has said many/multiple investigations are ongoing. None of that has changed. SDNY will be explosive. Many more charges for many more people are coming.
Nowhere near the whole story, though some will be new, will be made public via the Mueller Report, much much more will come via other avenues. Tons of info cannot be made public in his report for multiple reasons but can be used to build cases that go way beyond Mueller’s narrow scope, which is what is literally happening now as we move forward. Let us thank Robert Mueller and his 17 prosecutors for being amazing citizens and patriots and spring loading what is to come going forward via all these other avenues and districts as we watch. It is frustrating to wait but within a month or two things will drastically change and we will know far more, beyond the report which is a big start but will only reveal certain things. Many non-directly Russia things will fly out that will be more scandalous than anything. We have seen hints already, Psy Group and so, so much more. Stay tuned. Trump is still cornered and now he cannot stop ANYTHING because there are so many investigations well along in so many places, thanks to Mr. Mueller.
P.S. There are large non public portions of the insane amount of obstruction of justice behavior we don’t even know about yet and may or may not hear via the report. But we will, and it just adds to all else when the time comes for an ending here."
Thank you for this excellent, reasoned response...
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President Donald Trump's reelection campaign is taking its fight against Russia 'collusion' critics to the airwaves, pushing TV producers not to host prominent Democrats who talked up conspiracy charges that didn't pan out.

The effort, revealed in a memo by Trump's campaign communications director, urged by TV producers to keep in mind guests who he claims made 'outlandish' and 'false claims,' and cites Attorney General Bill Barr's summary of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's findings.

Communications Director Tim Murtaugh's letter singles out two powerful committee chairs – Reps. Jerold Nadler and Adam Schiff – as well as Rep. Eric Swalwell of the House Intelligence Committee and Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez and Sen. Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut.

It also lists former CIA Director John Brennan, a favorite target of President Trump's.

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