[MB followup] Parachutist from Knave 11/2 cover

**Immy** · April 5th, 2017, 07:52 PM

2009/#63

Has shown up in Charlie Dean's thread.

Almost forgot how to do this.

**highwayman274** · April 5th, 2017, 09:44 PM

Welcome back, Immy!

She certainly looks like Charlie Dean . . . . other opinions?

**effCup** · April 6th, 2017, 03:01 AM

First thought was question of timing? That Knave set was from 11-02, 1979-02.

I don't know the full details of Charlie Dean's career, but in my quite probably incomplete collection (well, folder) I have several of her sets dated from 1982, not earlier.

Mag. model ages are not always reliable, but in 1986-03 Mayfair claimed Charlie was 22. There's always the possibility not only of inaccuracy re. the claimed age, but also of a somewhat "delayed" publication, i.e. she may have been 22 when the pics. were taken rather than when they were published. /shrug/

I'd be very happy to defer to others on this who are possibly more familiar with her UK P3 work, etc.?

edit: imdb not much help.

Slightly larger scans now at Cream Cheese.

**effCup** · April 6th, 2017, 10:54 AM

Looking some more at the pics. in Charlie Dean's thread, compared with those of mystery on Cream Cheese.

CD has a spot on her chest above her left boob that I don't see for mystery, although those pics. are not always very clear. Other pics. of mystery posted to CD's thread (Rosi in High Society (De), 1986-06) are large resolution but also not the clearest/most helpful because of poses/positioning, etc.

CD's areolae are large ovals and notably darker than the rest of her boob skin. It might be the lighting but mystery's areolae seem less dark/a lighter pink, closer to the colour of the rest of her boobs. Perhaps more importantly, their outer edge seems less clearly demarcated than CD's?

Difficult to say much else with any real confidence

--e.g. comparing noses?

Mystery's chin perhaps has a slight depression (larger, not as sharp/clear as a dimple) that CD perhaps lacks?

Open to/welcome others' opinions.

**skybluepink200** · September 6th, 2018, 01:41 PM

Mod Edit: This was a new request now merged.

I recently posted Knave Volume 11 No 2 to the Knave thread. I'd always wondered who the model on the front cover was, and I've just discovered this post here: http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...4&postcount=80 which suggests it might be Charlie Dean. If so, it was easily her earliest published pics, perhaps 2-3 years ahead of anything else. I'm not 100% sure - what do others think?

**highwayman274** · September 6th, 2018, 04:57 PM

Maybe it's the helmet . . . but I wonder if "mystery" is the same girl we see in this 2011 MB post.

http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...d.php?t=358210

**magnut** · September 6th, 2018, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by highwayman274

Maybe it's the helmet . . . but I wonder if "mystery" is the same girl we see in this 2011 MB post.

http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...d.php?t=358210

Off top of my head, I think this pic is from a Gallery mid-80s special issue - Girls of Winter or something like that.

**magnut** · September 6th, 2018, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skybluepink200

I recently posted Knave Volume 11 No 2 to the Knave thread. I'd always wondered who the model on the front cover was, and I've just discovered this post here: http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...4&postcount=80 which suggests it might be Charlie Dean. If so, it was easily her earliest published pics, perhaps 2-3 years ahead of anything else. I'm not 100% sure - what do others think?

Before clicking to see the pics, I thought of Trina Carr, who did a parachutist shoot around 1974. (This Knave issue (1979) turned out to be a few years later than I had first thought.)

Nope, not Trina. But at least a tip others might find useful - a hard-to-find fetish!

All Man 1975-03
Debonair 1973-05 and 1975-11
Man's Delight 1975-02 and 1975 Fall Quarterly
mr. 1974-05
Adam 1974-02 v18 #1
Climax 1974-06
Ace 1973-07
Men's Challenge 1973-08
Night and Day 1973-04
Modern Man 1973-06
Score 1973-09 (obscure title that ran about five months)
Nymphet 1974-09
PIX 1974-06 v5 #7
Duke 1973-07
Stud 1973-07
Girl Illustrated v6 #40 (UK)

**Immy** · September 9th, 2018, 03:41 PM

One of the earliest Box posts, with excellent follow-up analysis by effie.

**skybluepink200** · September 9th, 2018, 04:50 PM

Thanks for this. I concur with effcup i.e. it's not her. It's far too early I think, and there are enough other question marks to say it's not her. The earliest definite set for her is Men Only 47/7 which is July 1982. February 1979 and then nothing for another for 3 and half years seems unbelievable for a model who was then so prolific.

April 6th, 2017, 03:01 AM	#3
effCup *Vintage Idiot* Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: History Posts: 22,133 Thanks: 226,710 Thanked 356,730 Times in 21,628 Posts	First thought was question of timing? That Knave set was from 11-02, 1979-02. I don't know the full details of Charlie Dean's career, but in my quite probably incomplete collection (well, folder) I have several of her sets dated from 1982, not earlier. Mag. model ages are not always reliable, but in 1986-03 Mayfair claimed Charlie was 22. There's always the possibility not only of inaccuracy re. the claimed age, but also of a somewhat "delayed" publication, i.e. she may have been 22 when the pics. were taken rather than when they were published. /shrug/ I'd be very happy to defer to others on this who are possibly more familiar with her UK P3 work, etc.? edit: imdb not much help. Slightly larger scans now at Cream Cheese. Last edited by effCup; April 6th, 2017 at 03:30 AM.. Reason: , CC

September 6th, 2018, 01:41 PM	#5
skybluepink200 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 1,806 Thanks: 7,866 Thanked 137,458 Times in 1,837 Posts	Parachutist from Knave 11/2 cover Mod Edit: This was a new request now merged. I recently posted Knave Volume 11 No 2 to the Knave thread. I'd always wondered who the model on the front cover was, and I've just discovered this post here: http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...4&postcount=80 which suggests it might be Charlie Dean. If so, it was easily her earliest published pics, perhaps 2-3 years ahead of anything else. I'm not 100% sure - what do others think? Last edited by Pepper II; September 9th, 2018 at 09:37 PM.. Reason: added note

September 9th, 2018, 04:50 PM	#10
skybluepink200 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 1,806 Thanks: 7,866 Thanked 137,458 Times in 1,837 Posts	Thanks for this. I concur with effcup i.e. it's not her. It's far too early I think, and there are enough other question marks to say it's not her. The earliest definite set for her is Men Only 47/7 which is July 1982. February 1979 and then nothing for another for 3 and half years seems unbelievable for a model who was then so prolific. Last edited by skybluepink200; December 6th, 2018 at 01:27 PM.. Reason: Correcting date

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April 5th, 2017, 07:52 PM	#1
Immy Maestro Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sin City Posts: 4,505 Thanks: 26,113 Thanked 83,656 Times in 4,342 Posts	[MB followup] Parachutist from Knave 11/2 cover 2009/#63 Has shown up in Charlie Dean's thread. Almost forgot how to do this.

April 5th, 2017, 09:44 PM	#2
highwayman274 Former Staff Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The Great White North Posts: 7,697 Thanks: 245,146 Thanked 130,613 Times in 8,119 Posts	Welcome back, Immy! She certainly looks like Charlie Dean . . . . other opinions?

April 6th, 2017, 10:54 AM	#4
effCup *Vintage Idiot* Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: History Posts: 22,133 Thanks: 226,710 Thanked 356,730 Times in 21,628 Posts	Looking some more at the pics. in Charlie Dean's thread, compared with those of mystery on Cream Cheese. CD has a spot on her chest above her left boob that I don't see for mystery, although those pics. are not always very clear. Other pics. of mystery posted to CD's thread (Rosi in High Society (De), 1986-06) are large resolution but also not the clearest/most helpful because of poses/positioning, etc. CD's areolae are large ovals and notably darker than the rest of her boob skin. It might be the lighting but mystery's areolae seem less dark/a lighter pink, closer to the colour of the rest of her boobs. Perhaps more importantly, their outer edge seems less clearly demarcated than CD's? Difficult to say much else with any real confidence--e.g. comparing noses? Mystery's chin perhaps has a slight depression (larger, not as sharp/clear as a dimple) that CD perhaps lacks? Open to/welcome others' opinions. Last edited by effCup; April 6th, 2017 at 01:26 PM.. Reason: typos.

September 6th, 2018, 04:57 PM	#6
highwayman274 Former Staff Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The Great White North Posts: 7,697 Thanks: 245,146 Thanked 130,613 Times in 8,119 Posts	Maybe it's the helmet . . . but I wonder if "mystery" is the same girl we see in this 2011 MB post. http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...d.php?t=358210

September 9th, 2018, 03:41 PM	#9
Immy Maestro Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sin City Posts: 4,505 Thanks: 26,113 Thanked 83,656 Times in 4,342 Posts	One of the earliest Box posts, with excellent follow-up analysis by effie.