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September 6th, 2018, 01:49 PM | #3951 |
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The UK political system is certainly imperfect, but the UK did provide a referendum for Scottish independence in 2014 -- in stark contrast to Spain/Catalonia or Belgium/Flanders. I do agree that that the order of magnitude difference in population and GDP between England and Scotland creates tremendous problems, so perhaps dissolution is inevitable.
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September 6th, 2018, 02:30 PM | #3952 |
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"The European court of human rights’ judgments that transformed British law" https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014...ed-british-law If you look at these cases, you'll find a Court in Strasbourg with authority over the UK in a manner which no foreign court has over the US, Canada and Australia. The ECHR is separate from the EU. There are no plans for the UK to leave and no democratic mandate for it. Though the level of awareness and debate was so poor especially in the tabloid press that many may have mistakenly thought they were voting to leave it. There are many ECHR non EU signatories including Iceland, Turkey and Ukraine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member...ncil_of_Europe |
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The EU has free trade deals with many countries that are not signatories. There maybe political/economic reasons for the trying to prevent the UK from leaving the ECHR but there is nothing legally preventing it. Anyway as I said there is no democratic mandate for it and no chance of it getting through Parliament. It wasn't even part of the Tory's (or Labour's) manifesto. |
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Unlike most countries, including all developed countries, the British do not have a formal written Constitution. They are legally under-developed, because they have no higher-ranking basic law that tells them what they stand for, what governments can do, and where they can be challenged. Everyone else has that, just not Britain That leads to countless problems, but on topic, it's why they're in today's mess. They're in the process of having a minority government disrupt the entire nation to immense proportions, but without having a Constitution or a Constitutional Court where it could be challenged No modern Constitution would allow such disruption on the basis of a 51.9% majority. It would require a "Constitution-changing majority" of at least 60% or more. But Britain doesn't have either a Constitution or such a majority. And that is is a big problem for them |
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I was very happy in the 70's pre the EEC and I'll be just as happy once we eave the EU. It was an arranged marriage organised by that duplicitous twat Ted Heath and the separation will be as messy as both parties want to make it. If the EU are adamant they will allow no leeway and Britain's red lines are incompatible then we might just as well accept it will be a no deal departure then let's just leave and start looking forward. I'm getting back to my films now as they are so much more like real life
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