Windows 10? - Page 78

zenkarma · February 4th, 2016, 07:59 PM

Kingsoft(WPS Office) is available on several distros if that's doable. I haven't used it myself but I've read it's better at MS Office compatibility.

**Ernesto75** · February 6th, 2016, 05:37 PM

The files, LXCore.sys and LXss.sys were discovered in the latest Redstone build of Windows 10 desktop by windows hacker Walking Cat.

LXCore.sys and LXss.sys are Linux files.

Windows 10 Server may benefit from running linux-based server apps.

For the moment there is no logical explanation to this find.

I suspect a lot of scrutiny will soon descend on this bit of software.

**Ernesto75** · February 6th, 2016, 05:54 PM

Microsoft is testing two submerged datacenters: that is Project Natik.

This should allow better cooling but they don't tell how technicians will replace malfunctioning disks.

**9876543210** · February 7th, 2016, 12:38 AM

Found this article from Forbes on another forum earlier today. Credit to the OP:

Microsoft Reveals Real Cost Of 'Free' Windows 10

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/02/05/free-windows-10-true-cost/?utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix&ref=yfp#68 db37e0593f

Very interesting read. The second paragraph says a lot though:

Quote:

Windows 7 and Windows 8. Yes, the operating systems which users already paid for (either directly, or indirectly in the cost of a new computer) are getting more expensive by the day. The cost comes in terms of lost productivity, flexibility and enjoyment as Microsoft does its best to make life for Windows 7 and Windows 8 users so unbearable they give in and upgrade to Windows 10.

MS is still doing nothing to encourage me to install that crap.

Edit:

Not sure why, but the Forbes link isn't working the way it should. You'll need to copy and paste it into a new tab for it to work I guess.

RowanMooreFan · February 7th, 2016, 12:51 AM

As a more than 10 year user of Linux I quit when it started becoming a Windows clone worse than Windows itself.

We're dealing with processors now that are, let me guess, a 1000 times faster than 10 years ago and what do we get as a user experience? You guessed right, nothing even remotely close to what could have been.

What we do get is total update harassment. When I start a machine that I have not maintained for, let's say fourteen days, it needs several hours, to first update itself, before I can get to work.

I'm so sick of it all and there's really no alternative. At work I still use an old Win 3.11 machine with WordPerfect 6.1 on it for wordprocessing (I also use a recent computer because I have to for all sorts of web-based crap). If I held a competition with the other 4000 employees in the building to create the most complicated document, me in WordPerfect and they in the latest version of Word, I bet you I'll have it done in two or three hours and they will still be trying to figure it out in more than 10 years from now and actually never get it done in Word.

zenkarma · February 7th, 2016, 03:51 AM

I'll bite. What distro are you using that takes several hours to update?

That's enough time to download an iso, install, update, configure to your liking with enough time left to watch a movie.

**Ernesto75** · February 7th, 2016, 06:29 PM

When you reinstall Windows 7 on a HP you don't reinstall what is on a special
partition of your main HD, but you are directed to an Internet site for downloading.

On the moment I didn't notice it but this website was probably a site which was managed by Microsoft...

This is why after reinstalling the OS I received an unwanted upgrade without having had the time for configuring the machine and why I had my new OS different from the previous.

The changes are very discreet but I am sure there are.

And now for the second time I wasted a whole day repairing an application I work on.

Before that, my OS was almost perfect, but now I can't say the same.

THIS IS SABOTAGE!!!

And for what ?
For forcing me to accept a new OS which is not mature, which is a real shit, to please the displaced ambition of Satya Nadella.

Instead of trying to have datacenters working underwater, this s... should better having more programmers doing a real serious job on Windows 10.

RowanMooreFan · February 7th, 2016, 07:21 PM

I'm talking about Windows 7, 8.1 and 8.1 Pro machines; I also have several virtual machines running to use older software in for example 32bit Windows 7 which still runs WordPerfect 6.1 - I even run WP 6.1 under Win 3.11 VM and both versions run blazing fast. That is what modern computers should do, run blazing fast, but actually they don't. Lots of modern programs carry way too much overhead and are hardly optimized. Look at all the sh... needing this or that version of Java or of this or that version of the dotNet framework.
Each time we are being fooled into buying stronger and stronger computers and all we end up with are machines that are hardly any quicker when using them, than a long time ago.
Just imagine you'd have to update your car (and reboot) every time you wanted to use it.
I stopped using Linux when using KDE (I used SuSE) became more of a pain in the ... than the Windows desktop.

I have made very large office programs that even on Win 3.11 run like the SR-71 Blackbird (I am using that specific comparison to point out that we need 20 years to build the F-22 and it only took how many years to build the super advanced SR-71?)

**Ernesto75** · February 7th, 2016, 07:51 PM

I think I went too fast doing my reinstall and I would like the opinion of somebody who did the same on a HP machine.

On my machine it seems there are two possibilities:
- reinstalling by using the Windows panel;
- reinstalling by using the HP menu just before loading of the system.

So I made a reinstall by using the setup panel which called for a download
instead of using the HP menu which would have made a true clean reinstall.

It seems I made a mistake.

**rlg118** · February 7th, 2016, 09:08 PM

I'm on my second HP laptop right now. I saved a Win7-SP1 image while they were still available at Digital River and created a DVD with it. (Actually, several!) The only other thing you need is your product key. And lots of time to run the bazillion updates which have come along since!

When you are done with all of that, make a clean system image using Acronis (or whatever backup program you like) and save that. From that time on, reinstall Windows, reinstall the backup program, and restore your image. You may have a few more updates to do, but it won't be in the dozens. You can incorporate any new updates into a new system image.

February 6th, 2016, 05:37 PM	#772
Ernesto75 Vintage Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 1,106 Thanks: 12,732 Thanked 21,648 Times in 1,096 Posts	The Android subsystem files on a build of Windows 10 The files, LXCore.sys and LXss.sys were discovered in the latest Redstone build of Windows 10 desktop by windows hacker Walking Cat. LXCore.sys and LXss.sys are Linux files. Windows 10 Server may benefit from running linux-based server apps. For the moment there is no logical explanation to this find. I suspect a lot of scrutiny will soon descend on this bit of software.

February 6th, 2016, 05:54 PM	#773
Ernesto75 Vintage Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 1,106 Thanks: 12,732 Thanked 21,648 Times in 1,096 Posts	Project Natik Microsoft is testing two submerged datacenters: that is Project Natik. This should allow better cooling but they don't tell how technicians will replace malfunctioning disks.

February 7th, 2016, 06:29 PM	#777
Ernesto75 Vintage Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 1,106 Thanks: 12,732 Thanked 21,648 Times in 1,096 Posts	When you reinstall Windows 7 on a HP When you reinstall Windows 7 on a HP you don't reinstall what is on a special partition of your main HD, but you are directed to an Internet site for downloading. On the moment I didn't notice it but this website was probably a site which was managed by Microsoft... This is why after reinstalling the OS I received an unwanted upgrade without having had the time for configuring the machine and why I had my new OS different from the previous. The changes are very discreet but I am sure there are. And now for the second time I wasted a whole day repairing an application I work on. Before that, my OS was almost perfect, but now I can't say the same. THIS IS SABOTAGE!!! And for what ? For forcing me to accept a new OS which is not mature, which is a real shit, to please the displaced ambition of Satya Nadella. Instead of trying to have datacenters working underwater, this s... should better having more programmers doing a real serious job on Windows 10.

February 7th, 2016, 07:51 PM	#779
Ernesto75 Vintage Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 1,106 Thanks: 12,732 Thanked 21,648 Times in 1,096 Posts	Making a clean reinstall of Windows 7 on a HP machine I think I went too fast doing my reinstall and I would like the opinion of somebody who did the same on a HP machine. On my machine it seems there are two possibilities: - reinstalling by using the Windows panel; - reinstalling by using the HP menu just before loading of the system. So I made a reinstall by using the setup panel which called for a download instead of using the HP menu which would have made a true clean reinstall. It seems I made a mistake. Last edited by Ernesto75; February 7th, 2016 at 08:01 PM..

February 7th, 2016, 09:08 PM	#780
rlg118 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Land o' Lake-Effect Posts: 5,349 Thanks: 5,911 Thanked 113,522 Times in 5,361 Posts	I'm on my second HP laptop right now. I saved a Win7-SP1 image while they were still available at Digital River and created a DVD with it. (Actually, several!) The only other thing you need is your product key. And lots of time to run the bazillion updates which have come along since! When you are done with all of that, make a clean system image using Acronis (or whatever backup program you like) and save that. From that time on, reinstall Windows, reinstall the backup program, and restore your image. You may have a few more updates to do, but it won't be in the dozens. You can incorporate any new updates into a new system image. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

February 4th, 2016, 07:59 PM	#771
zenkarma Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 169 Thanks: 1,016 Thanked 19,261 Times in 467 Posts	Kingsoft(WPS Office) is available on several distros if that's doable. I haven't used it myself but I've read it's better at MS Office compatibility.

February 7th, 2016, 12:51 AM	#775
RowanMooreFan Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 155 Thanks: 13,852 Thanked 7,287 Times in 151 Posts	As a more than 10 year user of Linux I quit when it started becoming a Windows clone worse than Windows itself. We're dealing with processors now that are, let me guess, a 1000 times faster than 10 years ago and what do we get as a user experience? You guessed right, nothing even remotely close to what could have been. What we do get is total update harassment. When I start a machine that I have not maintained for, let's say fourteen days, it needs several hours, to first update itself, before I can get to work. I'm so sick of it all and there's really no alternative. At work I still use an old Win 3.11 machine with WordPerfect 6.1 on it for wordprocessing (I also use a recent computer because I have to for all sorts of web-based crap). If I held a competition with the other 4000 employees in the building to create the most complicated document, me in WordPerfect and they in the latest version of Word, I bet you I'll have it done in two or three hours and they will still be trying to figure it out in more than 10 years from now and actually never get it done in Word.

February 7th, 2016, 03:51 AM	#776
zenkarma Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 169 Thanks: 1,016 Thanked 19,261 Times in 467 Posts	I'll bite. What distro are you using that takes several hours to update? That's enough time to download an iso, install, update, configure to your liking with enough time left to watch a movie.

February 7th, 2016, 07:21 PM	#778
RowanMooreFan Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 155 Thanks: 13,852 Thanked 7,287 Times in 151 Posts	I'm talking about Windows 7, 8.1 and 8.1 Pro machines; I also have several virtual machines running to use older software in for example 32bit Windows 7 which still runs WordPerfect 6.1 - I even run WP 6.1 under Win 3.11 VM and both versions run blazing fast. That is what modern computers should do, run blazing fast, but actually they don't. Lots of modern programs carry way too much overhead and are hardly optimized. Look at all the sh... needing this or that version of Java or of this or that version of the dotNet framework. Each time we are being fooled into buying stronger and stronger computers and all we end up with are machines that are hardly any quicker when using them, than a long time ago. Just imagine you'd have to update your car (and reboot) every time you wanted to use it. I stopped using Linux when using KDE (I used SuSE) became more of a pain in the ... than the Windows desktop. I have made very large office programs that even on Win 3.11 run like the SR-71 Blackbird (I am using that specific comparison to point out that we need 20 years to build the F-22 and it only took how many years to build the super advanced SR-71?)