Holly Madison

[keats]

Originally Posted by Infidel

I noticed that some posters here are pushing back at the idea of a playmate being an escort. Why is that so hard to believe? Because of the quote above.

PB has always found that beautiful next door type to pose nude. My "the world is not black and white moment," for PB was reading a quote from Terri Welles. She point blank said that the only way you are becoming Playmate of the Year was by sleeping with Hef. I was shocked. You mean someone as wholesome and decent looking Corinna Harney, Lisa Matthews, Cindi Wood, and the list goes on, actually let Hef bang them to become POTY?

What I constantly find amazing is what a girl you think is so sweet is actually capable of. If they would bang Hef for POTY, escorting can't be beyond the realm of possibilities either.

Rebecca Ferratti was part of the Sultan of Brunei's harem. I remember an interview she gave of the degrading humiliating lengths they would go to stay there. Woman have always traded sex for provisions. Either actual sex or the image of sex (posing nude) to get what they want.

I think the one and done types, like Karen Price and Justine Greiner, that did their minimum commitment to PB and didn't hang out at the mansion, can be put into the exceptions. But a playmate hooking for money, it's believable.

I don't disagree that there are PMs who have availed themselves of the opportunity to make money through their sexual appeal; that's exactly what every playmate does, and I don't doubt that some of them either happily and eagerly or sadly and under duress find themselves in the escort business or even actively working in prostitution. My quibble is the claim of "most" or "many" etc. without empirical proof. As I mentioned before, poor Elisa Bridges was listed as available on an escort site long after her passing. Rebecca Ferratti's story is well documented but there's nothing gained from speculation.

[Marialva]

Originally Posted by Infidel

PB has always found that beautiful next door type to pose nude. My "the world is not black and white moment," for PB was reading a quote from Terri Welles. She point blank said that the only way you are becoming Playmate of the Year was by sleeping with Hef. I was shocked. You mean someone as wholesome and decent looking Corinna Harney, Lisa Matthews, Cindi Wood, and the list goes on, actually let Hef bang them to become POTY?

If that is true, and probably is, then Donna Edmondson lost her virginity with Hef, which is a shame.

[Siroga]

Originally Posted by Marialva

Donna Edmondson lost her virginity with Hef

A true shame is that in a few iterations, in another thread or another forum, this ridiculous speculation would be presented as a fact.

[Marialva]

Originally Posted by Siroga

A true shame is that in a few iterations, in another thread or another forum, this ridiculous speculation would be presented as a fact.

There's no need to be angry. My guess is far from absurd or ridiculous. But of course, if you want to take the words out of context, then everything is possible.

[keats]

Originally Posted by Marialva

There's no need to be angry. My guess is far from absurd or ridiculous. But of course, if you want to take the words out of context, then everything is possible.

Actually your own objection makes the point. Start with context: Don't Terri Welles' comments have to be put in context? She has a long history with Playboy including a period of conflict and litigation. What was the context of her remark? Then there's another context: How can she possibly "know" this about ALL the PMOYs? Does her list include Eugena Washington? Or Claire Sinclair who was in a relationship with Hefner's son? The conjecture is, it seems, absurd and ridiculous. What could possibly justify jumping to conclusions about Ms. Edmondson when she has done nothing to lead to those conclusions? Obviously Hefner was involved with some, maybe even many, PMOYs but aren't the women entitled to their own biographies? If they say they were involved then that's that, but if they don't then what's the percentage in making guesses that in no way can be either proved or disproved and adds nothing to the pleasures they have given with modeling? I should add that Hefner claimed that he was "faithful" while he was married to Kimberley Conrad so that also adds another "context" to whatever Ms Welles said. The bottom line is that speculation is pointless at best.

[JCat]

All of this is circumstantial evidence--that some (repeat, SOME, not all) models, even some who had been Playmates, have either escorted, "partied a lot", "traveled a lot" or had "mutually beneficial relationships" or whatever cute phrases one wants to use. But I believe some of it to be true, and not just from the articles referred to. About a year ago, a guy sent me a message on Twitter. I soon realized that he was a "hobbyist". If you've never heard the term used that way, it's a guy who regularly pays to meet women. I can't remember all of the details, but apparently he had figured out that I had briefly talked to a well known internet soft core model on Twitter some time earlier. He wrongly assumed that I had actually met her. I explained to him that I had not. However, I also told him that I had recently seen an ad listing someone using disguised pics of her. I sent him the link, and thought I'd never hear from him again. I assumed the ad was fake, and figured he'd learn the hard way. However...a few days later, he sent me a DM. The ad was real. He actually got a date with her--her last such date before retiring from that. (I'll spare you the details, since this is a family forum. ) For proof, he even sent me a pic of her changing in his hotel room. He wasn't supposed to take any pics, but he did anyway when she was looking away. Now, I know what you're thinking. He found a pic of her online and used it to fool me. I thought that as well. But then, a few days later, he asks if I'd like to join in a live video chat with her. Of course I said yes. I was dumbfounded. It was actually her--talking to me live. I was so shocked, I barely knew what to say. They discussed their date, and she knew that I knew too. I talked to them for a few minutes, then felt like a third wheel and left. But the story doesn't end there. Talking to him other times, he told me about at least one Playmate of the Month from more than 10 years ago who he "met", as well as several other models and porn stars. After that video chat, I was willing to believe anything he said. He had a list of models he liked and would find a way to get with many (but not all) of them. I guess if you are willing to spend four or five figures for one day or night, it can happen. However, even he said it didn't always happen. Not every girl does. But when you consider who some hang out with, it makes more sense now. Remember also that modeling doesn't always pay as well for some as it does for others. Please note: I have no first hand knowledge of any of this--just what that guy proved to me about his own experiences. It took a lot to convince me but he did and I got a brief glimpse into that world from afar. Another important point: if you think a girl might be available UTR (under the radar) keep it to yourself. If they are not openly listed, they want it kept quiet, and we need to respect their wishes. Many of them eventually get married and start a new life. I'm sure they'd like to keep this in the past if they can.

[keats]

Originally Posted by Goodfella49

I was browsing a site that reviews escorts and I discovered that Amy Leigh Andrews, Linn Thomas and Shera Bechard have all escorted at one point. Confirmed. Amy Leigh Andrews' rate was $2000 for an hour but damn!

And yet you don't provide the links so people can judge the veracity for themselves. Nothing is "confirmed" by a website given how easy it is to generate fake information. Look at the cover of the March 23rd issue of Time

[otoshi]

Originally Posted by Count Dooku

I have acquired a list from a newsgroup that was called rogue playmates.

Of course, it is impossible (at least for me) to verify it, maybe some of you can give their insights, it is old and dated to 2011.
It is not my intent to insult these ladies and mods can delete it if it is against the rules, but I find hard times to believe that these ladies that many people hold them in deity status, I knew many people that lost marriages, wives and money because of their addiction to them, imagine your reaction when you find them working as escorts

Amanda Paige
Ashley Allen
Brande Roderick
Buffy Tyler
Christi Shake
Dalene Kurtis
Heather Rene Smith
Irina Voronina
Jennifer Walcott
Jodi Ann Paterson
Krista Kelly
Lauren Michelle Hill
Lexie Karlsen
Nicole Narain
Petra Verkaik
Raquel Gibson
Shannon Stewart
Shauna Sand
Spencer Scott
Tina Jordan
Ann-Marie Goddard – Miss January, 1994
Alexandra Karlsen—Miss March, 1999
Amanda Paige—Miss October, 2005
Audra Lynn-Miss October, 2003
Barbara Moore – Miss December, 1998
Carrie Westcott—Miss September, 1993
Divini Rae—Miss November, 2003
Elisa Bridges—Miss December, 1994
Elke Jeinsen—Miss May, 1993
Fawna MacLaren—Miss January, 1989—35th. Anniversary PM
Heather M. Carolin—Miss April, 2002
Heather Kozar—Miss January, 1998, and PMOY
Jennifer Allan—Miss September, 1996
Kimberly Holland—Miss October, 2004
Kimberley Stanfield-Miss July 2001
Laurie Jo Fetter—Miss May 2003
Layla Harvest Roberts—Miss October, 1997
Leisa Sheridan—Miss July, 1993
Lesa Ann Pedriana—Miss April, 1984
Linn Thomas—Miss May, 1997, and Penthouse: POM
Morgan Fox—Miss December, 1990
Priscilla lee Taylor—Miss March, 1996
Rebecca Ferratti—Miss June, 1986
Stacey Sanches Miss March, 1995—PMOY 1996
Summer Altice—Miss August, 2000
Suzanne Stokes—Miss February, 2000
Teri Lynn Doss—Miss July, 1988
Teri Weigel—Miss April, 1986
Tiffany Taylor—Miss November, 1998
Tishara Lee Cousino—Miss May 1999
Victoria Silvstedt—Miss December, 1996—PMOY 1997
Victoria Zdrok—Miss October, 1994


PB CYBERGIRLS:

Lexi Lombardelli
Rachael Elizabeth
Amanda Hanshaw
Jillian Beyor
Merritt Cabal
Diane DeLuna
Megan Hauserman
Sabrina Rose
Faith Maxwell
Jessica Difeo
Rachel Elizabeth
Jillian Sundeen

PB MODELS/NEWSSTAND SPECIALS:

Removed at request of claimed rights holder.
The Bentley Twins
Laurie Wallace
Alley Bagget
Mary Lou Allgood
Patricia Ford
Jamie Hammer
Chloe Jones
Lena Li
Lorissa McComas
Heather Parkhurst
Mysti Sherwood
Adele Stevens
Sandee Westgate
Stephanie Loren
Yvette Lopez
Taya Parker

Divine Rae ? Amanda Hanshaw ? Lena Li ?

[BillyBlack66]

Didn't the term 'rogue Playmates' refer to Playmates who had done nude modeling besides Playboy? Not to Playmates who had done sex work?

[keats]

Originally Posted by otoshi

Amanda Paige[....]Taya Parker Divine Rae ? Amanda Hanshaw ? Lena Li ?

Anybody can type a list of names; somebody could take random members of this list and claim that they are all sneaking behind fastfood joints and stealing burgers out of the trash bins. There is absolutely nothing that backs up these claims. And, as pointed out previously, it's easy to see how bogus the escort pages themselves can be. The beautiful Elisa Bridges was listed on one site as being available for years after she had passed away. This list is nothing but fake news; now, is it possible that some of the women on this list have done some of the things implied? Sure, but what's the point? Unless there is concrete evidence all you have is sordid gossip and frankly the need for gossip and pretending to know such things says more about the gossiper than the victim of the gossip. This is a dead story.