Politically Correct or Incorrect Bullshit Of The Day

[diamelsx]

Originally Posted by Decadence

Citing pundits who say the 2016 Presidential election marks the rise of white identity politics in the United States, the upper-level anthropology seminar will draw from the field of whiteness studies and from contemporary writings that push whiteness studies in new directions.

Listening to the pundits is the problem. Instead of focusing on "whiteness" focus on Millenial voters and how to get them energized, but that is a narrative the pundits won't touch.

Before the 2016 election, America twice elected a black man as President of the United States over two separate white opponents. Black America is roughly only 15-17% of the population, so "whiteness" obviously played a role in these elections.

They're curious about white identity in politics.. I give you Barack Hussein Obama... who, without the white vote, would still be a community agitator in Chicago's best neighborhoods. I'll bet that they don't consider that 8 years of Obama was perhaps the reason that white identity politics, if it exists, is now being realized.

White America has not gone majority Democratic since LBJ. The success of Obama had more to do with his ability to turn out minorities and especially young people. White Identity politics is more of a distraction. Hillary and her campaign thought they could ignore the working class and progressives and make up the difference with disaffected Republican voters you talk about miscalculation.

Originally Posted by Estreeter

That's what lacking today, too soft on kids for the past probably 2 or 3 decades and the creampuffs, they don't know any different

Said about every generation coming up by previous generations

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by diamelsx

Said about every generation coming up by previous generations

That's true, won't argue with that at all,
But I think it's got to the point where kids are shielded from everything today, and punishment is weak.

When I was a kid it was acceptable to give a kid a belting ( within reason ), today it's almost criminal.

Counsellors at schools today only counsellors at my schools was the vice or principal himself scaling ya for fucking up, no touchy feely what are your problems please tell me sessions.

The luxuries they have today boggle my mind

What Decadence wrote a few posts back about picking your own grades so your not depressed by them even though you did try please, that's what I'm talking about, way too soft just so feelings aren't hurt .

[Roubignol]

Originally Posted by Decadence

Before the 2016 election, America twice elected a black man as President of the United States over two separate white opponents. Black America is roughly only 15-17% of the population, so "whiteness" obviously played a role in these elections.

They're curious about white identity in politics.. I give you Barack Hussein Obama... who, without the white vote, would still be a community agitator in Chicago's best neighborhoods. I'll bet that they don't consider that 8 years of Obama was perhaps the reason that white identity politics, if it exists, is now being realized.

Do you really believe that Obama is a black man?
I ask you that, because I clearly remember a Democrat consultant telling on the French TV in a debate on the first election of a "black" American: "Believe me, if Obama would have been a 100% African American, he never would have been the winning candidate of the Democrats. He was elected thanks to his white mother."

Originally Posted by Decadence

America has its issues.. everybody does. Academia would be better served (IMHO) tackling real issues with real consequences rather than inventing boogeymen to demonize or promoting genocide of whiteness.

This kind of studies were done about 30 years ago in Brasil. A country in which they observed that black people tried (an probably still try) as much as possible to "whiten" their babies through "interacial" marriage or reproduction" hoping to socially improve the life of their children.

When I went in Brasil, it was quite clear that there were more dark skin people than white ones in the "favelas".

including abolishing whiteness or coming to terms with white identity. What is the future of whiteness?

"Coming to terms with..."
That also means that white identity could be considered better by Afro American people, like it's the fact in Brasil.

If these questions are "scientifically" resolved. That's maybe not that negative. Isn't it?

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[Roubignol]

Originally Posted by Estreeter

That's what lacking today, too soft on kids for the past probably 2 or 3 decades and the result is creampuffs, they don't know any different

Do not forget that's the generation of the parents that educate their own children.

In other terms, that's your generation that educated your soft kids and that's your parents who educated you to educate your kids to be soft.

(If you don't get any child, replace "your" by "our")

[Decadence]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

Do you really believe that Obama is a black man?

Personally, no. Most everyone knows he came from mixed parents, so if anything, he's half black. But you're right.. he did catch some inital flack on his ascent from black folks who claimed he wasn't legit because he had no slave blood in him... he wasn't truly "down for the struggle".

BTW: It is the norm in America for mixed race people to identify as the non-white side. Obama is no exception.

Originally Posted by xyzde69

This kind of studies were done about 30 years ago in Brasil. A country in which they observed that black people tried (an probably still try) as much as possible to "whiten" their babies through "interacial" marriage or reproduction" hoping to socially improve the life of their children.

I'm not aware of any movement in the black communities in America to lighten their skin...Michael Jackson was the only one here in the US that ever tried that.. and look what happened to him. Came into the world as a talented young black male singer/dancer and died an old ugly white woman.

Originally Posted by xyzde69

"Coming to terms with..."
That also means that white identity ecould be considered better by Afro American people, like it's the fact in Brasil.

No idea what they truly meant.. I just relayed this nonsense.

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

In other terms, that's your generation that educated your soft kids and that's your parents who educated you to educate your kids to be soft.

Correction
I haven't got my own kids, step kids I do.
I could only go so far with them as far as disciple goes, I have been told by others that I went further with that than many would dare, never raised a hand though.

I caught the eldest daughter drinking underage once at home.
When her Mum came home I asked the daughter to come into the dining room and tell her Mum, in front of me, what I caught her doing, she did.

Kids, especially those that aren't yours could hold that against ya, I knew those consequences but knew people do grow up. I could have taken the easy way out and just asked her to put the vodka away, stop drinking and I won't say a thing ... But that's the easy soft approach, not my style.

The actual discipline dished out was always up to their Mum, whatever it was I always supported, rarely did they get away with anything.

[Arturo2nd]

Originally Posted by Decadence

Stanford University is slated to offer a class this fall called White Identity Politics, during which students will discuss "the possibilities of abolishing whiteness," according to the course description.

Citing pundits who say the 2016 Presidential election marks the rise of white identity politics in the United States, the upper-level anthropology seminar will draw from the field of whiteness studies and from contemporary writings that push whiteness studies in new directions.

Questions to be posed throughout the semester include: "Does white identity politics exist?" and "How is a concept like white identity to be understood in relation to white nationalism, white supremacy, white privilege, and whiteness?"

"Students will consider the perils and possibilities of different political practices," according to the course description, "including abolishing whiteness or coming to terms with white identity."

I don't know where to begin with this one..

Stanford is an interesting place. It is a very exclusive private university located in one of the most politically liberal areas of the country. It is home to the Hoover Institute, one of the most prestigious conservative think tanks. Herbert Hoover was a distinguished alumnus. In my experience, their students tend to be mostly apolitical, but of a much more conservative bent than your typical Northern California undergraduate.

Here's a link to their demographic profile.

http://facts.stanford.edu/academics/...aduate-profile

So we see way more Asian, Hispanic, and International students than the general population, but a lower percentage of whites and African Americans. Unlike most colleges and universities these days, they have more male than female students. (Roughly 56% of undergraduates nationally are women.) They have generous financial aid packages, but most students' parents pay the full freight of roughly $62,400 per year for tuition, room & board, plus books, supplies, and incidentals. Stanford is one of the nation's most exclusive universities. Less than 5% of applicants were accepted in 2016. (How the hell do they compete in the Pac-12?)

I can certainly see that a course on white identity politics as part of the ethnic studies curriculum would be of interest to their students.

[rlg118]

I actually heard a black person refer to Obama as an oreo - "black on the outside, white on the inside". Surprised the hell out of me.

Then I thought, well, look at who he hangs out with - all those rich white folks on Martha's Vineyard. Not exactly the streets of Chicago.

[Nobody1]

Originally Posted by rlg118

Then I thought, well, look at who he hangs out with - all those rich white folks on Martha's Vineyard.

Or in the Hamptons. Where the monthly rent is 1 million dollars.

http://www.bespokerealestate.com/lux...ptons-rentals/

[diamelsx]

Originally Posted by rlg118

I actually heard a black person refer to Obama as an oreo - "black on the outside, white on the inside". Surprised the hell out of me.

Bi-racial people will face these issues of racial legitimacy from both races so that is not really surprising. In the case of Obama I gonna say his African side not having any slave heritage may play a role in some of black America not fully identifying with him.