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May 6th, 2018, 09:38 PM | #2751 |
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His policies had nothing to do with the Enlightenment sort of thinking the Founding Fathers used in forming our governmental system. Opposition was not permitted, and the basic freedoms that we inheritors of Anglo-American tradition take for granted were suppressed. Those freedoms that remained were only allowed to Party members and Party sympathizers. In the matter of Hillary Clinton, while I may side with Democrats on some things, I am glad she did not get into office. I think she was spectacularly unsuited for the job. Her attitudes towards some of her supporters and detractors made that clear. What sort of person refers to a section of the populace as a "basket of deplorables"? That tells you a lot about the nature of her character in and of itself. Not that Trump is really any better. But he is bad in a different, and hopefully less destructive way. (I voted for neither of them, in case you were wondering. When offered a choice of urine soup or feces casserole at the table, I prefer to simply go to bed without supper.)
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The Southern Power elite have traditionally stoked the racist flames to keep poor whites and blacks at odds to maintain their power and privilege. Party allegiance is secondary and flexible in these matters. The Roy Moore fiasco demonstrated that common decency and morality are, too. Quote:
Now ask yourself, Is it OK if we just don't count conservative voters in your state next time around? Quote:
Also as I mentioned before, I thought running a person as widely disliked as Hillary Clinton was a dubious strategy in a race where voters have demonstrated a preference for new blood. I think we can agree that both Obama and Trump were elected by the millions of voters who have found their well being slipping away in 21st century America. Obama's minority voters and the youth vote galvanized by Bernie Sanders didn't turn out for Hillary Clinton, which is really quite predictable. Finally, as is mentioned elsewhere, my dislike of Donald Trump predates the 2016 election by many years. During my professional career, I encountered many folks like him. People who were raised in well to do families who routinely stiffed small business suppliers, landlords, business partners, lenders, and even their tailors and hairdressers. Having clawed my way up from a working class background with the ethos of honesty and integrity, I really, really don't like these arrogant bastards and would blow them away with shotguns if the law permitted. |
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May 7th, 2018, 07:58 AM | #2754 | |||
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While my edumacation is not vast or impressive the Founding Fathers were extremely liberal for their social class and the times they lived in.
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May 8th, 2018, 10:13 PM | #2756 | |
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Not liberal, not democratic. Hitler had his own perception of socialism. He defended the notion of social classes. Joseph Goebbels presented National Socialism as "true socialism", in that it would allow classes to live together instead of training them against each other. At the beginning Hitler was anticapitalist, but in 1926 he changed his mind and he suppressed all the 25 anti-capitalist points of his 1920 program. |
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I did have some interesting interactions with a Finance professor who couldn't seem to grasp my point that a theory that was not supported by empirical evidence was a theory that ought not to be taught as truth. He seemed to think there was something wrong with the evidence. I was left to wonder why someone who didn't understand the scientific method had his job. Quote:
I am not sure what you are referring to. I was referring to the fact that the co-founders of the Democratic Party, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison. were both slave holders, as was Democratic president Andrew Jackson. The Southern Democrats led the secession movement, and their "Copperhead" allies in the North sought to enable them. Southern Democrats passed the Jim Crow laws in the post-Reconstruction era. But the southern Democrats didn't really adhere to the liberal tradition. When we talk about the Liberal Tradition we are talking about a political view based on liberty and equality. John Locke is considered the seminal figure. Other prominent figures are Montesquieu, Adam Smith, and John Stuart Mill. "Liberals generally support civil rights, democracy, secularism, gender equality, internationalism and the freedoms of speech, the press, religion and markets." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism I suspect that you are a Liberal without realizing it and that our views are much closer than you realize. Forgive me for saying so, but I get the impression that you have been reacting to what you think I believe rather than hearing what I am saying. Quote:
According to the California Secretary of State 28.9% of voters are registered Republican and 43.9% Democrats. We have Libertarians, Greens, and a slew of minority parties, but the 23.3% of voters registered as independents have had a strong tilt to the Democrats since 1992. Chicanery is not necessary to keep the state's strong leftward tilt. To elaborate on my earlier comment about abandoning the "winner-take-all" allocation of Electoral College votes, this is a movement underway in several states, not just California. A couple of states have already transitioned. Adopted nationwide, it would make the Electoral College vote adhere more closely to the popular vote, encourage more voter participation, and result in minority parties receiving more votes. Who knows? It may open the way to minority parties replacing the current cesspools of corruption. Quote:
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[QUOTE=Bosko C;4425541]Success? He's a bankrupt several times over. The banks won't lend him money. If he'd simply invested his father's seed money, he'd be much further ahead. But the metric I like best is, nominally, he he's translated about 20 million into 3 billion, a ratio of 150 to one. I take my own nest egg, my ration is 1000 to one, no business failures, can get a loan anytime I ask, now who's the better business person?
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I have been reading about Trump in the business press since the 1980s. IMO, if it were not for the Russian oligarchs pouring massive amounts of cash into his real estate ventures after American lenders grew tired of being shortchanged in his deals, he would have disappeared from the scene after his Atlantic City debacle. |
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Yup,They were Liberals and so were Their slaves..
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