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Old December 20th, 2017, 04:05 AM   #1201
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I look at Ivanka and see a Stepford wife, something about her eyes. Saw a picture of his unwanted daughter Tiffany in a very short dress, nice legs.
Ivanka's surgically enhanced breasts complete the Stepford look. Tiffany was birthed by Marla Maples and has some good genes. I don't know that Tiffany is not included in the family circle. She is busy in law school and the decision may have been to keep both Barron and her out of the public eye for their own well being.
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Old December 20th, 2017, 11:58 PM   #1202
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E.P.A. Delays Bans on Uses of Hazardous Chemicals

More foot dragging while more Americans are harmed by it...

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E.P.A. Administrator Scott Pruitt is “blatantly ignoring Congress’s clear directive to the agency to better protect the health and safety of millions of Americans by more effectively regulating some of the most dangerous chemicals known to man,” said Senator Tom Carper, Democrat of Delaware and the ranking minority member on the Senate Environment and Public Works committee.
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“The delays are very disturbing,” said Dr. Richard Denison, lead senior scientist of the Environmental Defense Fund. “This latest agenda shows that instead of using their expanded authorities under this new law, the E.P.A. is shoving health protections from highly toxic chemicals to the very back of the back burner.”
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Planning to use a company that was far more than the 'clipping service' that the EPA now claims it is - when the company is really meant to rat out those who oppose what the new regime wants to do...

EPA to end controversial contract with conservative ‘media monitoring’ firm

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The Environmental Protection Agency is canceling a $120,000 “media tracking” contract it recently signed with a Republican public affairs and opposition-research firm amid questions about the firm’s political work and outrage from lawmakers on Capitol Hill.
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Old December 21st, 2017, 01:43 AM   #1203
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Jeez, can't turn on the damn TV without seeing him gloat about this damn tax change.

I should be happy for my stocks, but the long term effects of this change seem lost on his middle class supporters.

Disgusts me.
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1.) came off as hopelessly retrograde, much like Donald Trump who supported him. Both men seem to think America's apex was in the decade following World War II

2.) women and minorities knew their place

3.) Immigration does present problems (as does every other human endeavor), but we're a country founded by immigrants and strengthened by immigrants

4.) it's not as if there is a shortage of American-born white people engaging in despicable criminal behavior here.

5.) rather than closing itself off from it

6.) The fact that a man like Donald Trump could appeal to enough voters to be elected president, suggests we still have QUITE a ways to go.
1.) No I am pretty sure Trump wants to go back to the 80s not the 50s. And except sadly for gays, people with aids & areas were drugs were prevelant the 80s was at worst a acceptably decent time for Americans of all races.
No one is asking for the flaws of these past eras to be brought back into the modern day just the strong points & the balances they achieved.
Example in the 80s...
- Racism was notably down compared to the 60s & even 70s.
But at the same time...
- Blacks were not allowed to riot & rampage the way that they had been in the 90s & recent years.
See? balance.

2.) I hate this god damn phrase so much. What "place" are you talking about? The only things conservatives & Trump ask of black people is to phase out gang/ghetto culture & to not riot & burn towns to the ground just because a individual cop might have done something wrong. That isn't asking too much & isn't asking of them something that we would not also demand of whites or any other race. It's the reason Americans are not allowed to riot after a football game in America the way Canadian's riot after Hockey games or South Americans after Soccer. We demand order in the streets by ALL of our citizens, that is not unreasonable.

3.) Trump & most of his supporters haven't said a single thing against immigration, just ILLEGAL immigration & open borders without background checks. Do you understand the bloody difference? And before you dimiss me as racist know that I I 100% believe that the same rules should apply to myself when I travel. All countries have a moral duty to background check visitors & protect their citizens from outsiders not just America.

4.) Your seriously suggesting that just because we can't stop ALL crime that we should not cut off a large flow of crime that we do actually have the power to stop? And Mexican cartels do a lot worse then white American criminals & criminal organizations.
When was the last time mass graves were discovered on American soil from a American crime organization?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Durango_massacres
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011...nando_massacre

5.) We aren't closing off jack shit. The wall stops people from crossing over in the middle of the desert without permission from the authorities nothing more. It doesn't halt regular immigration on any level.

6.) He appealed to the voters because he at least put up the pretense of wanting to save American lives.
Hillary acted like she would actively pour gasoline on a American citizen if she saw that their shirt had caught fire. And she once called black criminals super predators which is 50 times more racist then ANYTHING Trump said during the campaign towards any race.
You seriously believe American citizens demanding that their leaders care weather or not they are murdered in the streets is a moral flaw that we need to work on?

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Old December 21st, 2017, 04:16 PM   #1205
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I think it's little short of a miracle that Trump's actually made it through his first year. Whether he makes it to November 2020 remains still to be seen.
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Comedian Dave Chappelle said he “feels sorry” for “poor whites” who got scammed by President Donald Trump.

“The poor whites are my least favorites,” the comedian says in a preview of his upcoming Netflix special, “Equanimity.”

He said “dumb white people” who backed Trump were swindled, because the president had no intention of helping them but instead is further enriching wealthy Americans — like Chappelle himself.

“I’m standing there thinking in my mind, you dumb motherf*cker,” Chappelle says. “You are poor — he’s fighting for me!”

Chappelle, who lives in rural Ohio town Yellow Springs, said he sees Trump supporters all the time, and he said they’re not as hateful as they’re made out to be.

“To my surprise, you know what I didn’t see? I didn’t see one deplorable face in that group,” Chappelle says. “I saw some angry faces, and some determined faces — but they felt like decent folk.”

“In fact, I’m not even lying, not to sound f*cked up, but I felt sorry for them,” Chappelle adds. “I know the game now. I know that rich white people call poor white people ‘trash,’ and the only reason I know that, is because I made so much money last year, the rich whites told me they say it at a cocktail party — and I’m not with that sh*t.”

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Old December 22nd, 2017, 02:29 AM   #1207
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Disgusts you eh? Don't like to keep more of your paycheck?
I for one will be keeping at least $1200 more of my hard earned pay instead of giving it to the government!

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Short term gain, long term gain. You're getting screwed, you're just too rosy eyed to see it. The used car guy's got you on the hook for Pinto.
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And have promised to continue to share the wealth due to the tax cut!
Promise?



Technically, companies & the Republican party are doing PR to try to damp down the political beating they'll take from the 99% (minus suckers, of course) after they find out what's in this bill.
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Old December 22nd, 2017, 05:25 AM   #1209
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Short term gain, long term gain. You're getting screwed, you're just too rosy eyed to see it. The used car guy's got you on the hook for Pinto.
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Technically, companies & the Republican party are doing PR to try to damp down the political beating they'll take from the 99% (minus suckers, of course) after they find out what's in this bill.
The politics are pretty cynical (for both parties, really.) The GOP is hoping the economy holds steady and they don't lose too badly in the mid-terms. Best case scenario is that they hold on in 2018, and the short term paycheck boosts keep them in in 2020. They will have to start slashing Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid as the deficit balloons, but are hoping to blame that on the Democrats.

The GOP thinking is even if they lose ground in 2018 and Trump gets run out of town in 2020 (not the worst thing to have happen) the ballooning deficits will still force the cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, but that the Dems will be blamed for both the cuts and the tax increases as this year's cuts go away. In the meantime, the corporations and wealthy get to keep their cuts.

We the people are still getting screwed because neither party is trying to govern in a way that balances taxes and spending, restores our infrastructure and education to world class standards, gives us healthcare system on par with the rest of the industrialized nations, and creates a relatively stable and secure international environment.

The simple truth is that the United States government is headed for bankruptcy and will take the world economy with it when it collapses. Dominant empires have collapsed before and life goes on. New governments and banks are formed and eventually the riots and wars subside. If by chance the climate change disasters play out or nuclear weapons receive extensive use, we won't be around to rebuild. It will only take some number of millennia for the planet to replenish all the biological niches and we won't even be a memory whispered on the wind.
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Old December 24th, 2017, 04:46 AM   #1210
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The politics are pretty cynical (for both parties, really.) The GOP is hoping the economy holds steady and they don't lose too badly in the mid-terms. Best case scenario is that they hold on in 2018, and the short term paycheck boosts keep them in in 2020. They will have to start slashing Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid as the deficit balloons, but are hoping to blame that on the Democrats.

The GOP thinking is even if they lose ground in 2018 and Trump gets run out of town in 2020 (not the worst thing to have happen) the ballooning deficits will still force the cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, but that the Dems will be blamed for both the cuts and the tax increases as this year's cuts go away. In the meantime, the corporations and wealthy get to keep their cuts.

We the people are still getting screwed because neither party is trying to govern in a way that balances taxes and spending, restores our infrastructure and education to world class standards, gives us healthcare system on par with the rest of the industrialized nations, and creates a relatively stable and secure international environment.

The simple truth is that the United States government is headed for bankruptcy and will take the world economy with it when it collapses. Dominant empires have collapsed before and life goes on. New governments and banks are formed and eventually the riots and wars subside. If by chance the climate change disasters play out or nuclear weapons receive extensive use, we won't be around to rebuild. It will only take some number of millennia for the planet to replenish all the biological niches and we won't even be a memory whispered on the wind.
Way to take the long view, Bri...
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