Current Politics in the United Kingdom

[Devius]

Originally Posted by vinceprince

Well even if you disagree with it, the decision of the Scottish Parliament would be legally binding, the referendum is not.

It would require legislation from the UK Parliament to change the constitutional legislation to prevent the Scots blocking this. This would not be easy to get through the Commons and Lords. Such an impasse may lead to another General Election.

At least Nicola Sturgeon has a plan...which is more than I can say for Her Majesty's Loyal(?) Opposition:

Four Labour shadow cabinet members have quit, and more resignations are expected, in protest at Jeremy Corbyn's leadership over the EU referendum.

They are Heidi Alexander, Ian Murray, Gloria de Piero and Lillian Greenwood.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36632956

[Wendigo]

If Scotland were to try and block the Leave decision then I see a massive change in the way the English would perceive Scotland. Whereas most English people wanted Scotland to remain part of the UK I think we would move towards a desire to have a mutual agreed separation.
The next few weeks and months are going to be very interesting.

[Gladys Allova]

Originally Posted by Devius

At least Nicola Sturgeon has a plan...which is more than I can say for Her Majesty's Loyal(?) Opposition:

Does she though?
It seems to me she wants to paint her face blue & get herself into the History books,
Has she even asked the Scottish people If they'd like another referendum or just presumed it ?

afterthought, Being in the EU saves a lot of law-making & provides someone else to shift any blame onto

[DB83]

Well the only way she could ask the Scottish people is through another referendum even though she claims a mandate through her campaigning at the last Scottish parliament election.

But she would not even venture in to another referendum unless she was absolutely sure she would win it. Maybe she should ask 'Dave' who was sure he would win his before such a step.

As for her latest hot-air comments about Scottish parliament blocking Brexit she is really talking through her underpants. It is the UK that voted (including Scotland). I hardly see the devolved parliament having such a power given that the SNP has a raft of MP's at Westminster. Sure that they could vote against the will of the people but they will require the support of other parties and they would hardly do so since they know they would be quickly out of job if they did so.

[vinceprince]

Originally Posted by DB83

As for her latest hot-air comments about Scottish parliament blocking Brexit she is really talking through her underpants. It is the UK that voted (including Scotland). I hardly see the devolved parliament having such a power given that the SNP has a raft of MP's at Westminster. Sure that they could vote against the will of the people but they will require the support of other parties and they would hardly do so since they know they would be quickly out of job if they did so.

Sections 29 and 57(2) of the Scotland Act 1998 which seems to give the Scottish parliament a veto on leaving the EU, in the form of requiring MSPs to give legislative consent to leave.

[palo5]

Originally Posted by Gladys Allova

Has she even asked the Scottish people If they'd like another referendum or just presumed it ?

Do you think she'd mention it, if she didn't think there was a chance?

She'd have a strong argument today. If Scotland got independent and re-joined the EU, it would keep all its foreign investment and take a lot of it from the English

That would seriously annoy England, but what argument would they have against it?

[Puhbear69]

Originally Posted by palo5

Do you think she'd mention it, if she didn't think there was a chance?

She'd have a strong argument today. If Scotland got independent and re-joined the EU, it would keep all its foreign investment and take a lot of it from the English

That would seriously annoy England, but what argument would they have against it?

The same as the EU investments does have in the near past in Great Britain - Non I think.

[DB83]

^^ It's Sunday afternoon and the dinner (with wine) was very nice.

I glanced at the quoted legislation but being no lawyer could not see such a correalation with what is written to what is proposed.

What I do read is that the devolved parliament can not introduce legislation that is contrary to the European Community, which I take to read as the EU. So in that respect the Scottish parliament's hand are tied as much as the UK as a whole.

Indeed I still do not see any UK government giving a devolved assembly such a veto. But like I said I am no lawyer.

[Oswald]

Brexit: Dawn Of A Populist Uprising: Paul Joseph Watson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XKJ2mcdVmQ

The establishment panty-wetters.

[Gladys Allova]

Originally Posted by palo5

Do you think she'd mention it, if she didn't think there was a chance?

She'd have a strong argument today. If Scotland got independent and re-joined the EU, it would keep all its foreign investment and take a lot of it from the English

That would seriously annoy England, but what argument would they have against it?

She needs no excuse to raise this thorny subject, it hasn't left her mind (nor mouth) since she replaced Alex Salmond the day after the last independence referendum in 2014, roughly 21 months ago.

She would have a strong argument and a strong national identity that the EU would warmly welcome
if only to annoy the English but is That the best reason to dissolve our UK union & create another border?