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The Iraqi and Saudi Abrams are not the newer model, the A2. They are the older M1A1 which has less armor than the A2. |
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Iraq 2003. 5,100 yards. I read in a comment that "10 Challengers" were destroyed by the enemy in Iraq but have found no sources that mention or confirm this. One was destroyed by another Challenger in a 'blue on blue' incident at night. Another was hit by about seventy R.P.G.'s and Milan ATM having lost a track. It and the crew were rescued. After repairs this tank returned to front line service in eight hours.
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The only CR2 we lost on the original Telic was the blue on blue, I can remember that happening very well.
Later on we had a CR2 driver lose a foot in an incident but I don't know if the cause ever reached the public domain. Whilst upsetting the driver somewhat I don't think it stopped the tank from operating. |
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Although the 'normal' Abrams is a more technical average, according to today's standards, he can be a very tough and dangerous opponent in the hands of a combat-experienced, well-trained and highly motivated crew. As in the case of US forces. In the hands of Saudis, he is a moving coffin. |
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The Saudis tend to only use Their tanks against unarmed demonstrators so It shouldn't be a problem..
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Not a tank, it is a mobile low level anti aircraft system. A bloody awful thing to meet if you're dismounted infantry but a target for any decent tank.
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