January 17th, 2015, 05:20 PM | #121 |
Super Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: England
Posts: 26,267
Thanks: 162,482
Thanked 278,833 Times in 26,212 Posts
|
If I were a naturalised American citizen you could legally revoke my citizenship, but if I am born of US parents and/or on US soil, that would make me a citizen by right of birth. You may not legally revoke anyone's birthright. As a pounishment, banishment went out when modern judicial systems came in.
What you can legally do is make your country much too hot to hold the unwanted person, so that they voluntarily flee. But this means smartening up your judicial system to expedite treason trials, and making the sentences have real fear-inspiring value, so that undesireable people will be anxious to stay away from retribution. You certainly need more of those no-touch torture prisons, the Supermax prisons, where the inmates are kept in solitary for life. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_Florence No glamorous or heroic martyrdom in that; just a slow rotting to death, knowing that as far as the rest of humanity is concerned you are already dead.
__________________
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. |
The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to scoundrel For This Useful Post: |
January 17th, 2015, 08:06 PM | #122 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 116
Thanks: 81
Thanked 724 Times in 114 Posts
|
If Islam is not the problem, why are Muslims in Niger rioting and burning churches over Charlie Hebdo?
|
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to JerryFalwell For This Useful Post: |
January 17th, 2015, 10:15 PM | #123 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 117
Thanks: 8
Thanked 356 Times in 93 Posts
|
Quote:
although clearly criminal to burn places of religion. |
|
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to shagger For This Useful Post: |
January 17th, 2015, 10:48 PM | #124 | |
Internet Defective
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: England
Posts: 4,836
Thanks: 72,979
Thanked 71,282 Times in 4,834 Posts
|
Quote:
However in Brum we now have a large muslim community who do not condemn IS or Al-Qaeda. But they always play the race card when it comes to islam & anything that they perceive as islamophobic. There is also a sexual dimension to this because of allegations of kiddie fiddling by Pakistani men in this city. It's a powder keg waiting to explode. And it's playing into the hands of extremists Both white & non white.
__________________
I am not a number I'm a free man. |
|
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to jokerman For This Useful Post: |
January 18th, 2015, 01:02 AM | #125 | |
Super Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Santee, Ca
Posts: 60,930
Thanks: 282,124
Thanked 815,494 Times in 60,973 Posts
|
Quote:
|
|
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to SanteeFats For This Useful Post: |
January 18th, 2015, 02:11 AM | #126 | ||
R.I.P
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,767
Thanks: 79,072
Thanked 116,288 Times in 6,602 Posts
|
Quote:
I'm atheist. I think you're born, you breath, the die, and that's it. There is nothing that follows. In the real world, I understand that not everyone feels the same. I'm okay with that. I respect that my Christian friends, my Jewish friends, and my Muslim friends all have different beliefs. I don't think it's cool to go around insulting intentionally somebody's religion. At the same time, I get that some people get offended way too easily. I also get that sometimes others can antagonize. I see no reason to intentionally irritate the believers of any religion. I can't say that I really like the idea of publishing cartoons mocking anybody's religion. At the same time, nobody deserves to die for doing so. In the real world, it's gonna happen. Don't like it, turn away. The world is not a nice place where everyone agrees with one another. I, speaking solely for myself, really don't care to see these cartoons. So, I'll look away. I'm not going to tell anybody not to post these hypothetical cartoons at VEF. But I'm not necessarily going to give my individual approval. When the moderator hat is on, I have to check what I like and don't like at the door. My druthers are unimportant as a moderator. My tastes and approval are unimportant at that point.
__________________
Quote:
|
||
The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to winebeavis For This Useful Post: |
January 18th, 2015, 05:54 AM | #127 | |
Super Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: England
Posts: 26,267
Thanks: 162,482
Thanked 278,833 Times in 26,212 Posts
|
Quote:
Instead of ignoring and breaking international law, America would do better to use the law for her own ends. You can really hurt and devastate a person without touching them; the law is good at that.
__________________
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. |
|
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to scoundrel For This Useful Post: |
January 18th, 2015, 06:13 AM | #128 |
Lost luggages?
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: France
Posts: 7,268
Thanks: 92,097
Thanked 86,801 Times in 7,170 Posts
|
Our president reacts yesterday after terrorists'support from some muslims over the world:here talk freedom is allowed,and it can't change.
Most of newspapers declare our country in war. My question for english mates:usa paid yet hardly,and other countries,and so mine.If tomorrow,that should happen in London,what reaction would you have? Great sunday to everyone! |
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to footstep For This Useful Post: |
January 18th, 2015, 06:24 AM | #129 | |||
Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Upper left corner
Posts: 7,213
Thanks: 48,028
Thanked 83,524 Times in 7,207 Posts
|
Quote:
The overwhelming sentiment in the Muslim community with respect to Charlie appears to be "they had it coming". This sentiment has been underlined, incredibly, by Turkey's Erdogan, who noted today Quote:
I _do_ expect people who want to live in my country to respect our values, which place freedom of conscience and freedom of speech far above any other creed. Erdogan's statement: Quote:
Do "moderate Muslims" demonstrate for free speech? Ever? Nope. They demonstrate on our streets to call for the death of blasphemers-- when we've long ago decided that blasphemy ain't a crime. |
|||
The Following 18 Users Say Thank You to deepsepia For This Useful Post: |
January 18th, 2015, 06:36 AM | #130 | |
Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 13
Thanks: 11
Thanked 102 Times in 13 Posts
|
Quote:
We go on about Muslims but the ones who preach hatred are Radical Islamists just like we have Neo Nazis who use religion and Zionists who use religion to preach murder and a society based on their own warped view of the world . If the people who believe we should deport Radical Islamist then shouldn't these other preachers of hate be deported not going to happen because they tend to be white. Having worked with Muslims all almost of them are just like us they want to left alone to raise their families and live their life in peace and raise their families and some I've met on holidays of them I have had some real benders with. I love the term Political Correctness invented by Right wing shock jocks to denigrate anything they disagree with funny thing is these people like radical Islamists have really thin skin and are easily offended . By the way I'm more of a left winger when it comes to politics but I'm definitely not politically correct. When it comes to free speech it does come with strings attached I believe even the US Supreme Court said it "doesn't give you the right to stand up in a theatre and shout fire" with free speech comes responsibility most western democracies say you can't go out and murder people . |
|
The Following 13 Users Say Thank You to pipeman500 For This Useful Post: |
|
|