The Middle East

[foxbat1]

Originally Posted by Rogerbh

As I recall, Trump was claiming he deserved a third term. Which is why people say he wants to be President for Life. So pretty much, he doesn't believe term limits should apply to him.

It says a lot that the perpetual victim thinks that he should get another turn because his first term had some difficult challenges like COVID, and, you know, the rule of law, his crimes catching up with him etc.

He really is like a kid. A kid with dementia.

[Priapus]

Man, these guys are ruining my fly shemag collection with this stuff. I bet they bought those off Amazon. Probably poly blend, too. So cringe. Full story here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9eoS2qvkLI

[foxbat1]

Baby saved from dead mother's womb in Gaza dies

A baby rescued from her dying mother's womb after an Israeli air strike in southern Gaza has died, the BBC has learned.

Baby Sabreen al-Sakani was delivered by Caesarean section in a Rafah hospital shortly after midnight on Sunday.

Amid chaotic scenes doctors resuscitated the baby, using a hand pump to push air into her lungs.

However she died on Thursday and has been buried next to her mother after whom she was named.

Baby Sabreen was among 16 children killed in two air strikes in Rafah last weekend. All were killed in a bombardment targeting the housing complex where they lived.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68903591

[foxbat1]

There is no doubt that Netanyahu is preventing a deal to release the abductees

Chaim Rubinstein, until recently the spokesman for the families of the abductees, reveals details about the meetings with Netanyahu, about the pressure exerted by the Prime Minister's Office and the reasons for which he resigned from his life project ● In an interview with Gideon Alon, he reveals: "In retrospect, we learned that Hamas offered to immediately release all the abducted citizens If the IDF does not enter the Strip, but the government rejected the proposal

https://www.zman.co.il/481871/

The former spokesperson for the families of the hostages makes an extraordinary claim.

[badman999]

Originally Posted by foxbat1

There is no doubt that Netanyahu is preventing a deal to release the abductees



https://www.zman.co.il/481871/

The former spokesperson for the families of the hostages makes an extraordinary claim.

So Hamas murdered 1200 people, and kidnapped another 200. Hamas says (immediately), "let us slide on the murders, and we will give back the hostages we kidnapped". And you thinh Netanyahu was WRONG not to tell the terrorists "fuck off?"

My god you're an idiot. Thank god you aren't in charge of anything but shit stirring.

[Priapus]

Originally Posted by foxbat1

There is no doubt that Netanyahu is preventing a deal to release the abductees
The former spokesperson for the families of the hostages makes an extraordinary claim.

I think I said this a few weeks ago. Israel is actively making hostage demands of Hamas that Hamas can't fulfill because they don't have them. Israel's military operation in Gaza has nothing to do with rescuing hostages. Think about it this way, Israel has shot a confirmed three (probably more) of their own hostages and rescued two. I believe the IDF would call that the "gold standard" of hostage rescue operations.

[SexObjex]

Then you have to admit Israel has Hamas by the nuts on this particular issue.

War is neither fair nor moral, either side. All the tantrums thrown over the past six months are so hopelessly naive because they hope to hold a necessarily amoral, even animal conflict to moral standards.

Originally Posted by Priapus

I think I said this a few weeks ago. Israel is actively making hostage demands of Hamas that Hamas can't fulfill because they don't have them. Israel's military operation in Gaza has nothing to do with rescuing hostages. Think about it this way, Israel has shot a confirmed three (probably more) of their own hostages and rescued two. I believe the IDF would call that the "gold standard" of hostage rescue operations.

[Rogerbh]

No rewards for hostage takers.

More bombs for Israel.

Kill Hamas and their supporters, wherever Israel and the Mossad finds them.

If the US backs one side, back them all the way.

[scoundrel]

Originally Posted by foxbat1

There is no doubt that Netanyahu is preventing a deal to release the abductees



https://www.zman.co.il/481871/

The former spokesperson for the families of the hostages makes an extraordinary claim.

If you start a war and end up the loser, the winning side is under no obligation to show mercy. Hamas started this, and all consequences belong to Hamas.

The sooner Israel gets rid of Netanyahu the better, because he's a land-stealer and a malignant cretin, and of course an enemy of peace in general. But there's no peace to be had with Hamas, not now and not ever. So, no deals and no stopping the offensive. Hamas has to be killed on sight and that has to continue. The Palestinian people has to come away from this when it's over, and it will end one day, knowing they can't ever fuck with Israel again.

[Devius]

UK forces may be deployed on the ground in Gaza to help deliver aid

British troops could be deployed on the ground in Gaza to help deliver aid via a new sea route, the BBC has learned.

The US has said no American forces would go ashore and an unnamed "third party" would drive trucks along a floating causeway onto the beach.

The UK is understood to be considering tasking British troops with this when the aid corridor opens next month.

Whitehall sources said no decision had been made and the issue had not yet crossed the prime minister's desk.

The Ministry of Defence (MoD) and Israeli army declined to comment.

Britain has been closely involved in planning the sea-borne aid operation and Defence Secretary Grant Shapps said the UK continued to take "a leading role in the delivery of support in coordination with the US and other international allies".

The possible role for British forces - known as "wet boots" by military planners - would see them drive trucks off landing craft onto the temporary causeway and deliver aid to a secure distribution area ashore.

Although a huge effort would be made to protect allied forces both off and onshore, British troops would potentially face a higher risk of attack from Hamas and other armed groups.

On Wednesday, a United Nations team had to take cover when mortars landed near the planned distribution zone.

US defence officials confirmed an American army ship had begun work in the eastern Mediterranean to build a large floating pier.

Aid would be delivered there from Cyprus on large ships before being transferred into trucks and smaller landing craft. They said the floating causeway would be "several hundred metres long" and anchored firmly into the sand.

They said they hoped the new maritime corridor - which they call the Joint Logistics Over-the-Shore (JLOTS) operation - would ultimately deliver up to 150 trucks per day.

IDF vows to provide security for sea aid

The aim is to add to - but not replace - aid deliveries by land that are still insufficient to meet the need. On average about 220 aid trucks per day are currently getting into Gaza by road.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has said it will provide "security and logistics support for the JLOTS initiative… to enhance the entry of humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip".

Israel's military will be responsible for anchoring the floating causeway to the beach and has been practising how to do this with American forces further north on the Israeli coast.

In a briefing with journalists, a senior US military official said because there would be no American boots on the ground, hundreds of US soldiers and sailors would live and sleep at sea on a UK naval vessel, RFA Cardigan Bay.

He also made clear US forces would not take the aid ashore and instead that role would be carried out by a "significant partner". He confirmed this would be another nation, not a private military company.

"We have a third party who will be driving the trucks down the pier," the US military official said. "Just a point of emphasis, there will be no US military boots on the ground. So, a third party is driving those trucks."

Despite questioning from journalists, he refused to name the third party.

One UK source said nothing had been decided but there was a debate going on about "do we put wet boots on the beach, do we drive trucks onto the pier?".

The MoD declined to comment about the suggestion UK forces might drive trucks ashore, but Mr Shapps said the crew of RFA Cardigan Bay were central to the UK's contribution, adding: "It is critical we establish more routes for vital humanitarian aid to reach the people of Gaza."

He said specialist British military planning teams had been embedded within the US operational HQ in Tampa, Florida - as well as in Cyprus - for several weeks to help develop the safest and most effective maritime route.

The UK Hydrographic Office has also shared analysis of the Gazan shore with US planners to develop the pier.



More than six months into Israel's military operations in the Gaza Strip, over half of its population of 2.2 million is crammed into the southern city of Rafah.

The UN has warned of a humanitarian catastrophe and Israel has faced international criticism for limiting the amount of aid reaching civilians by land.

The Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza says more than 34,000 people have been killed in Gaza since the war began on 7 October.

The IDF launched the offensive after about 1,200 Israelis and foreigners - mostly civilians - were killed and 253 others were taken back to Gaza as hostages, according to Israeli tallies.

Source:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68909511