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September 24th, 2018, 05:48 PM | #4041 |
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We know that -- they will be screwed
From a political standpoint, many will be glad they're gone, because they are very obstructive and oppose too much of what the EU stands for But no one wishes them a no-deal |
September 24th, 2018, 05:53 PM | #4042 |
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I have never heard anyone from Austria or Germany referring to the British as "Inselaffen" except in a film. Though I'm aware of its derogatory meaning, it's almost non-existent today but was probably more in use a long time ago.
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No, it's absolutely contemporary. Trust me
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Ok, you know more about Germany than me. I thought that insult originated in the British Zone of Allied-occupied Germany. Another one I heard of is "Kliffpisser". The Germans got a nice nickname for us Austrians, too: Schluchtenscheißer.
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Not a big surprise really, we were taken into the EEC by Ted (treacherous twat) Heath and despite all promises that there was no ulterior plan for a political union we had the EU imposed upon us by osmosis with a series of gradual changes, so yes many Brits openly oppose what the EU stands for, and that will tend to be older Brits who have lived through all the changes. We are an island race so maybe we see things differently to mainland Europe, as I have said many times as much as I hate the EU as an organisation I have nothing against the people of Europe and I hope I will still be able to visit as there are so many things I want to see.
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But you're right there are differences. Europeans see the main benefit as no more war, and other great things that come from it. You see it as the diminishing of your national importance You will have to deal with that, because the rest of the world already knows |
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http://www.open.edu/openlearn/histor...ry/island-race and as one of our leading philosophers muses here https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...towards-europe "We’re an island race and no wonder we feel antipathy towards Europe. It’s innate, part of our national psyche. It’s not surprising where we are. We might not accept it, but we have to understand it and move on." not forgetting ...
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A decade ago, before the financial crisis hit, I would have ranked the UK as the second most influential Western power. After Brexit, I would rank it fourth, with Germany in second place and France in third place. None of that is the fault of Brussels, and the underlying structural problems of the UK will not be solved just by leaving the EU. |
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All nations have structural problems. No nation is problem-free. The best approach to dealing with national problems is self-determination and a democratic system. In this way people such as Mr Juncker, a man who makes ignoring the wishes and interests of ordinary people into a guiding principle, will become answerable. Once such people are genuinely accountable, they don't last long. At a stroke, one of Britain's main structural problems will be solved, merely by removing from government the sort of people who think setting a 2kw limit on electric kettles will save electricity.
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