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Old January 16th, 2018, 10:58 PM   #161
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Yes, I do believe we are not alone however as many here have already pointed out.

They would have to live in the same time frame as we do and live close enough so they can detect us and we can detect them.
If all of the above were to happen then a) would it be wise for us to attract their attention and b) would they want to have anything to do with us?
Chances of aliens being able to communicate with us is very small. Look at the trouble we have understanding the various species and their own methods of communication on our own world. Let alone a race that lives on another planet light years away.

As for them actually visiting us they might see us as a boring race unworthy of their attention on a boring common place world, all the materials on Earth is freely available in the galaxy in far greater quantities. Humans too aggressive, psychologically complex and primitive to deal with in a meaningful manner. If any aliens were to visit us it would be for either curiosity or annihilation. Curious to find another intelligent race in their neck of the woods or a future threat to them in which case they could wipe us out from orbit and we be none the wiser and they do it before we became an space-fairing race.
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If alien civilizations exist that are long lived and far advanced from ours, they probably already know all about us. We exist as a reference number in their vast catalog of life bearing planets. They probably have a way to remote-view us without sending UFO's to fly through our atmosphere, and probably have a detailed workup of our entire world, seen in close-up from myriad points of view.

There is probably a brief entry in their Encyclopedia Galactica about humans:

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Yes, I do believe we are not alone however as many here have already pointed out.

They would have to live in the same time frame as we do and live close enough so they can detect us and we can detect them.
If all of the above were to happen then a) would it be wise for us to attract their attention and b) would they want to have anything to do with us?
Chances of aliens being able to communicate with us is very small. Look at the trouble we have understanding the various species and their own methods of communication on our own world. Let alone a race that lives on another planet light years away.

As for them actually visiting us they might see us as a boring race unworthy of their attention on a boring common place world, all the materials on Earth is freely available in the galaxy in far greater quantities. Humans too aggressive, psychologically complex and primitive to deal with in a meaningful manner. If any aliens were to visit us it would be for either curiosity or annihilation. Curious to find another intelligent race in their neck of the woods or a future threat to them in which case they could wipe us out from orbit and we be none the wiser and they do it before we became an space-fairing race.
The chances of us being able to communicate with any advanced civillisation using the technology we have, or are likely to develop is actually pretty good. The time lag is perhaps more of an issue.

Any advanced scientific race will fully understand mathmatics and all the basics of science we do. This is the simple basis for further communication. I'd also add that the best probability is that we will make contact with a machine race and assuming it happens in the future, this may be handled by our own AI.

Just because there have been no definite signals detected from nearby star systems doesn't mean all that much. Life may be quite common, nobody knows yet. Intelligent life is probably a good bit rarer. However in our own galaxy there is every probability that hundreds of thousands of advanced races exist as has been suggested by Frank Drake with his famous equation.

No, we won't make contact with less advanced races. The problem is that there will most likely be a big gap between us and advanced races. Perhaps a million years or more and they will be absolute gods to us and we will be ants to them.

Will they want to help us in any way? Why should they? Would you give a young child matches to play with? Should we expect them to be hostile? Probably not as as they will have the means to completely destroy us without the slightest effort, assuming they visit the Earth. Could they visit us if they were biologically capable of making the journey? Who knows? Could they survive in our biological environment? They might well be capable of sending a probe perhaps, like the one in the movie 2001. Even the shortest journey to a neighbouring star would take decades at fractional light speed and this could centuries in our future before it is a possibility for humans. Nobody can say for sure if there's some clever way around the laws of physics allowing travel faster than light. It seems an impossibility and may well be the reason wht ET has never been here. A sort of natural quarantine. On the other hand, as Arthur C Clark once said, any sufficiently advanced technology will be indistinguishable from magic.

Life out there has every chance of being carbon based and not totally different from us in many of the basics. That doesn't mean they look like us, or more to the point even think like us and that's where the problem would be.
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