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October 16th, 2016, 10:50 PM | #1771 |
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Why aren't any/all of those supposedly banned, reported, and copyrighted material being taken down, scrubbed, and being made inaccessible on many other sites?? I see material like Score, ATK, various banned models/stars, as well as much of the material members are losing here at VEF still appearing and not being removed and affected at many of those other sites.
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October 17th, 2016, 01:59 AM | #1772 |
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I think its pretty simple
We self report banned material on VEF because we're a smaller community forum with far less resources than many others Not naming names but others simply wait for the dmca notice to arrive as there are always uploaders who ignore the banned list. On the upside these forums have banned lists triple the size of ours and where we lose content they lose entire threads because they push the envelope and that gets back to the models & copyright owners. There are banned models on their lists that arent on ours Smaller does have its advantages imho |
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Lets take the dreaded ATK for example. They are considered so taboo and a big no-no, but yet their material appears by the ton on many sites no bigger, and certainly not as good as VEF. Their material has been there for years, and more continues to be posted without "incident". In regards to an image's code number -- When an image and its code number get reported/banned, do they become banned/inaccessible at other porn sites as well? Which brings me to my next question -- One downloads an image which is still active/accessible on/from another site, but when uploading it to the host one finds and receives a ban notice. If we're being told that the image and its code number are banned then how/why was the image still active, accessible, and able to be downloaded at the other site? Its active/accessible at one place but dead/banned at another!
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Perhaps I misunderstood G-Type's post, but he mentioned something about when a pic gets reported both the code and image get taken down. If that is so then one would reasonably think that the pic would/should be dead and inaccessible at all sites.
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October 17th, 2016, 12:35 PM | #1776 | |
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The image is taken town after being reported, whereas the CRC-code stays and acts as the future counter-reference. 1 >Consequently, all other pics being stored at the hosterīs side carrying that particular code are qualified "banned" and get unaccessable from now on...on all sites where these pics have occurred until now. 2 >Consequently, any further pics being uploaded who carry that CRC-code will be refused as well. Example: Suze Rendall Pic # 1178h004 (just a non-tried example) You upload that pic > it gets through. Once this pic gets reported, it is taken down. The CRC-code is kept as reference. All other pics carrying that code (even renamed ones e.g. ElevenSevenEight-h-04 etc...) are taken down as well, reagrdless where they have come from and where they have been posted so far. If another chap tries an upload of that pic as 11SeventyEight-04, it will get messaged "banned" immediately after uploading. Hope my explanations are clearer now. . Last edited by G-Type; October 17th, 2016 at 12:42 PM.. Reason: Addition |
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I don't mean to keep beating this issue, but if the CRC-code is active as a countercheck, then why is the image still active and accessible at the other site from which one downloaded it, and it is only not until when attempting to upload it to a host (say to post at VEF) that one now finds and is notified that the image is banned? If the image is banned then it should not even be at the other site.
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October 17th, 2016, 01:00 PM | #1778 | |
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Perhaps the guys @ Imagebam etc. may shed light into this . |
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October 17th, 2016, 03:15 PM | #1779 |
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Again imagebam. Again problem with the 115 server. All images not available. That host now has a daily technical problems.
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However, there is an explanation even for this scenario: images get often re-uploaded. A standard strategy for an image host to deal with a takedown notice would be to (i) remove the image, and (ii) stop further uploads of an image with the same code. However, that does not include older uploads. For example, someone might have downloaded a picture and then re-uploaded it with the same host. If then one incarnation of the pic is taken down, another may well survive, because they are not looking for other pics that are already up that have the same code. Would that be an easy thing to do? Depends. If the database stores these codes for all pics then it would be easy. If not, this would be a horrendously complex operation. It is also possible that they now record the code in the database, but they did not do that originally - in which case many older pics would have a NULL entry in that database as code; in other words, the pic has a code, but the database does not know it. Of course, because the database stores the picture and the picture contains the code, the database somehow stores the code anyway - but not necessarily in an easily accessible form. To begin with, the images themselves sit on external memory, not the database itself - that alone slows things down by a factor of 500-1000 these days. In addition, there would be no hashtables to access this data quickly - you end up with a linear search on data that may be millions of gigabytes... Last edited by beutelwolf; October 17th, 2016 at 06:21 PM.. |
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