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Old June 21st, 2019, 02:31 PM   #38651
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People intent on harm do not go around looking like Rambo, someone might notice. She had on a dress loose enough to conceal a weapon or explosives, a handbag which could have had a charge, a small pistol or a knife and she had a mobile phone in her hand which if modified correctly could act as an initiator for a charge.
If her and her cohorts were intent on blowing the place up, they wouldn't have been mouthing off about the climate in the process. Field overreacted - the exclusive elite who put economic growth above everything else had been interrupted. I don't condone Greenpeace and their actions but sometimes protest is the only way to be heard:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48643756
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Old June 21st, 2019, 04:03 PM   #38652
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And now for something not really all that different I'm afraid!

Earlier today, I spoke with several diehard Tory supporters who all favoured Boris. It certainly seems fair to say that he will get the job after a few more weeks of Tory dicking around and hyped-up, very tedious TV reporting. While there does seem to be a belief amongst Tory supporters that Boris is going to rapidly fix things - because he has some brilliant new ideas to unleash, I would suggest that there are major limits to what he can or will do.

The Tory Party is now in a pretty poor state and nobody should expect miracles. Perhaps it's a pity that the opposition remains hardly worth voting for and seem to have lost the plot, but there you go.

The mess this country is in will probably continue and perhaps get worse.

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And now for something not really all that different I'm afraid!


The mess this country is in will probably continue and perhaps get worse.
Maybe your country needs to explore talking with several European countries and form a coalition maybe even a union , you could call it the European Union and then your country would be run by other caring people and you wouldn't have to worry about your Government and then just live free
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Old June 21st, 2019, 04:36 PM   #38654
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Well C-B we seem to have a strange situation all the way around.



The worst Prime Minister since Bob Walpole told German George that he look after things for him.


A leader of the Opposition who is so incompetent that his first wife said that he wasn't fit to run a tap.


And a Speaker of the Commons who is so appalling that even the jokes about him are no longer funny.


The one thing in common is that they are all professional politicians.
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I do support the broad aims of Greenpeace but not stupid stunts like this.


I saw a vid of the whole event and the MP took appropriate action. I wouldn't like to be the people in the Chancellors protection squad today.,
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Mark Field has now been suspended:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48718725

I notice that City of London police are now investigating several complaints. I don't expect anything to happen, as one of the protesters has said she doesn't think it amounts to assault.
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Mark Field has now been suspended:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48718725

I notice that City of London police are now investigating several complaints. I don't expect anything to happen, as one of the protesters has said she doesn't think it amounts to assault.
I think Mark Field should be praised for his actions.
We inhabit a world where someone could wake up one morning with a chip on his/her shoulder and decide he/she would throw milkshake on a politician simply because he/she disagrees with that politician.
Or he/she could be deranged enough to get into his/her car and target the House of Commons, attacking any unfortunate soul(s) who get in his/her way.

Those doing the complaining about Mark Field should do well to remember that this weekend is close to what would have been MP Jo Cox's 45th birthday - except that poor woman was murdered three years ago by by far-Right extremist Thomas Mair, because of differing views over the Brexit referendum.

Great Get Together events to mark what would have been Jo Cox's 45th birthday
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Old June 21st, 2019, 07:35 PM   #38658
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I think Mark Field should be praised for his actions.
We inhabit a world where someone could wake up one morning with a chip on his/her shoulder and decide he/she would throw milkshake on a politician simply because he/she disagrees with that politician.
Or he/she could be deranged enough to get into his/her car and target the House of Commons, attacking any unfortunate soul(s) who get in his/her way.

Those doing the complaining about Mark Field should do well to remember that this weekend is close to what would have been MP Jo Cox's 45th birthday - except that poor woman was murdered three years ago by by far-Right extremist Thomas Mair, because of differing views over the Brexit referendum.

Great Get Together events to mark what would have been Jo Cox's 45th birthday
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https://www.itv.com/news/central/201...45th-birthday/
I agree completely with you. I've been hearing about this all day and I was expecting some sort of thuggish assault, but after finally viewing the footage it's actually nothing of the sort.

I wouldn't put it past some nutter to infiltrate something like the Greenpeace protest that happened here so they can do some damage to someone they don't like. I posted elsewhere when Jo Brand told that tasteless joke that politicians are getting stuff like death threats; it's no surprise that a politician wasn't prepared to wait around for something to happen.

I would ask where the security was - surely the protesters shouldn't have been even allowed into the venue?
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Old June 21st, 2019, 07:39 PM   #38659
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I think Mark Field should be praised for his actions.
We inhabit a world where someone could wake up one morning with a chip on his/her shoulder and decide he/she would throw milkshake on a politician simply because he/she disagrees with that politician.
Or he/she could be deranged enough to get into his/her car and target the House of Commons, attacking any unfortunate soul(s) who get in his/her way.

Those doing the complaining about Mark Field should do well to remember that this weekend is close to what would have been MP Jo Cox's 45th birthday - except that poor woman was murdered three years ago by by far-Right extremist Thomas Mair, because of differing views over the Brexit referendum.

Great Get Together events to mark what would have been Jo Cox's 45th birthday
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https://www.itv.com/news/central/201...45th-birthday/

Firstly, High profile politicians get eggs and food thrown at them all the time. That isn't the same as politicians getting death threads and people conspiring to murder politicians. There's absolutely no comparison.

Secondly, Jo Cox was murdered buy a psychotic who frequented far right forums and collected Nazi memorabilia. It wasn't about 'differing views'. He was mentally unhinged.
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Greenpeace has always been a highly activist organisation and has frequently done good work in this way, for example its long running campaign against the whaling industry, which was hunting many species of whale to the point of extinction. They used to put themselves into real danger by confronting whalers who used high pressure water hoses, threw heavy objects at them and weren't shy of more aggressive retaliation than that.

These activists aren't up to the same snuff at all. Rather than saving whales, they are merely making trouble. I don't even know what their exact point was and how it was served by causing a public nuisance. At least in the suffragette days everyone knew what the point of it all was. Now all I can gather is that they're against environmental damage, as most people are, actually. What changes they want I couldn't say and I wonder whether they could either.
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