5 People You'd Invite to Dinner

[Estreeter]

The first 5 members who get this thread back on topic will get too have dinner with me At your own peril though

For dinner I'll serve somethin' unforgetable

Yabbies


Meat Pie 'n Sauce


Moreton Bay Bugs


Pest


Pavlova


And of course



Anyone game ?

[chitlika]

Originally Posted by Estreeter

Sounds good,
So I'll invite myself around also

Churchill never drank anything
that wasnt alcoholic most of the day he drank very weak whiskey and soda water, wine and champagne with dinner then he switched to brandy till bedtime............He usually slept well

[Jeff Vader]

Originally Posted by Mal Hombre

I think it's spelt Poteen

Or as Gaeilge - Poitín, but Poteen is a reasonable approximation of how to pronounce it. I've drank Raki in Greece (similar to your Rajika Estreeter ? ) - the locally brewed stuff which is loony juice.

And as for 5 people to invite to dinner ?

Einstein
Newton
Feynman
Edison

and Charlie Mops - the man who invented beer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwgx7EvUuZE

[MisterMacky]

Malachi Martin
Richard Dawkins
George Friedman
Neil Postman
Kate Upton

[blueballsdc]

Disregarding my earlier attempt at humor post, I would like to have the 5 following gentlemen over for dinner:

Thomas Jefferson
John Adams
Benjamin Franklin
James Madison
James Monroe

We could chat about the founding of this country, the Declaration, the Constitution, and how freaky women were back then. We could drink lots of wine and white whisky.

[Brecht]

Originally Posted by blueballsdc

Disregarding my earlier attempt at humor post, I would like to have the 5 following gentlemen over for dinner:

Thomas Jefferson
John Adams
Benjamin Franklin
James Madison
James Monroe

We could chat about the founding of this country, the Declaration, the Constitution, and how freaky women were back then. We could drink lots of wine and white whisky.

And talk about slavery, genocide....

[keefriff]

Originally Posted by Norbert84

And talk about slavery, genocide....

Boy you threw that one out like a poison dart.

You could also try and look at the positives that these mean achieved not just in the world of politics but in many different studies. Maybe you would want to talk to Jefferson about his authorship of the Bill for Religious Freedom. A fairly reasoned and thought out thesis that I know you will appreciate. Or maybe you could talk to Jefferson about his architectural design of the earliest building at the Univerisity of Virginia. Or maybe you could talk to Jefferson about his primary authorhship of the Virginia Declaration of Rights. Or talk to Jefferson about farming, flora and fauna, wine, food and thousands of other topics that he had a interest in and knowledge of. A very gifted, intelligent and knowledgable man and one who is much revered in the United States. Maybe you could talk to Franklin about his experiments with electricity. Or his study of oceanography and metereology. You could also jam out with Jefferson and Franklin as they were both accomplished musicians. Hell, I think all of those guys would be fun as hell to hang out with! And don't forget both Jefferson and Washington grew lots of hemp so party favors will be had for all!

We are all aware of their failures as humans and as politicians and we all know the history of the United States. I choose to celebrate the great accomplishments of these men while also remembering their failures. The times often make the man and these men all accomplished great things despite their many 21st century, 20/20 hindsight failings. I think even you would admit that.

[Brecht]

Originally Posted by keefriff

Boy you threw that one out like a poison dart.

You could also try and look at the positives that these mean achieved not just in the world of politics but in many different studies. Maybe you would want to Jefferson about his authorship of the Bill for Religious Freedom. A fairly reasoned and thought out thesis that I know you will appreciate. Or maybe you could talk to Jefferson about his architectural design of the earliest building at the Univerisity of Virginia. Or maybe you could talk to Jefferson about his primary authorhship of the Virginia Declaration of Rights. Or talk to Jefferson about farming, flora and fauna, wine, food and thousands of other topics that he had a interest in and knowledge of. A very gifted, intelligent and knowledgable man and one who is much revered in the United States. Maybe you could talk to Franklin about his experiments with electricity. Or his study of oceanography and metereology. You could also jam out with Jefferson and Franklin as they were both accomplished musicians. Hell, I think all of those guys would be fun as hell to hang out with! And don't forget both Jefferson and Washington grew lots of hemp so party favors will be had for all!

We are all aware of their failures as humans and as politicians and we all know the history of the United States. I choose to celebrate the great accomplishments of these men while also remembering their failures. The times often make the man and these men all accomplished great things despite their many 21st century, 20/20 hindsight failings. I think even you would admit that.

I couldn't help it but being snappy again.

All these gentlemen were huge intellectuals in their time and space (the New World) but their political, social and economic actions were pure contradictions of what they used to preach. Thomas Jefferson is probably the best example among these men, considering him as THE advocate of democracy and human rights, while a slaveholder at the same time, depriving these slaves from the human rights he was advocating.
It would indeed be a very interesting experience to face Mr. Jefferson with his ambivalences just like the other listed gentlemen. We would never go out of topics, from politics to art and science. But let's not forget why these men were able to contribute so much in political theories, literature and even science: they were rich and could afford the time and education. This wealth came from the hard labor of people they enslaved.
Besides everything else you mentioned, from good wine to women of their time, this must be discussed, too, brother keefriff. I wouldn't do it myself though. I'd send Howard Zinn.

[tygrkhat40]

You must also remember that neither Franklin or Adams were slaveholders. Franklin was a self-made man who acquired his wealth from his printing businesses and Adams was one of the most prominent lawyers in Boston. In fact, Adams defended the British soldiers accused of the "Boston Massacre" and won acquittals for all the soldiers.

[Brecht]

Originally Posted by tygrkhat40

You must also remember that neither Franklin or Adams were slaveholders. Franklin was a self-made man who acquired his wealth from his printing businesses and Adams was one of the most prominent lawyers in Boston. In fact, Adams defended the British soldiers accused of the "Boston Massacre" and won acquittals for all the soldiers.

You're right about John Adams but Franklin was a slaveholder. He changed his mind later.