The Middle East

[BondJmsBond]

That's good info, thank you.

With US no longer arming them maybe rebel groups will fail, maybe even US fights them.
Maybe they will ally with ISIS. Maybe Kurds will try to make a state, and fight Turkey and Assad, maybe US sides with Turkey, along with Assad and Russia? Or maybe US allies with Kurds against Turkey Assad and Russia...meanwhile we fly alongside of our enemies with AA all over, bombing former allies and Iranian militia perhaps...then there's Hezbolla......

[gordian_knot]

Allegiences do change remarkably rapidly. Only the Russians appear to have a coherent strategy. For the rest it's either been an almost total failure (Turkey), or a chaotic attempt to play catch-up (America).

It does look like the US has placed most of its stake on the Kurds now. The question is whether, once ISIS has been defeated, the Kurds will be abandoned, which is what big empires tend to do to small groups when they're no longer needed.

[Puhbear69]

Opperation "Olive Branch"

Turkey yesterday started an offensive against the Kurdish (YPG & PYD) controlled territory together with the "Free Syrian Army" (FSA) (former Al Qaeda ans ISIL fighters) in the region of Afrin and Manbij

As the Kurdish fighters were up to now the allies with the US it seems to be a open conflict between the two NATO partners.

The Russians wouldn't also be happy about this issue I think; as the Free Syrian Army shot the two Russian fighter pilots, after their bomber were shot down by the Turks.

Let's wait and see, how they are reacting.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/0...120424928.html

[Puhbear69]

German woman is sentenced to the dead penalty in Irak.

A German citizen (with a Moroccan background) is sentenced to a dead penalty in Iraq. They told she got caught in the surroundings of Mossul and had been a logistic supporter of the ILIS.
She was travelling from Germany via Turkey into the Iraq to support the ISIL.

The German ambassador protested against the sentence.

Friends, I'm really no friend of the death penalty, but in this case my mercy is very limited.
All the dead caused by the ISIL, Fathers, Mothers, Brothers, Sisters, Children had also dreams, the right of living.

He (she) who sows the wind shall reap the whirlwind.

[sea-man]

Originally Posted by SanteeFats

Yes I will talk about any religion that is incorrect n their actions IMO. The so called Christian church in Westboro that protested at military funerals saying the people died because God hates homosexuals was so far outside of true Christianity that I can not see hove the leader made any connection to the funerals. Some religions do actually practice their tenants. How many Buddhist or BaHai terrorists have you heard of?? However you are correct that most religions will not take schism lightly, although in this time it is much easier, except for the radical Muslims IMO. They have proven the Muslim's who believe in the peaceful version of the Koran will not do anything about the radical ones.

Faux "news" is still a joke, just like the mainstream media. American intellectual class call the BBC the baby butchering corp. This liar of a "media" is ignored worldwide. It has supported every attack and genocide on the planet. It should have its license revoked and shut down. It puts out such laughable bull shit that what you have written describes them perfectly.

[sea-man]

Originally Posted by Puhbear69

German woman is sentenced to the dead penalty in Irak.

A German citizen (with a Moroccan background) is sentenced to a dead penalty in Iraq. They told she got caught in the surroundings of Mossul and had been a logistic supporter of the ILIS.
She was travelling from Germany via Turkey into the Iraq to support the ISIL.

The German ambassador protested against the sentence.

Friends, I'm really no friend of the death penalty, but in this case my mercy is very limited.
All the dead caused by the ISIL, Fathers, Mothers, Brothers, Sisters, Children had also dreams, the right of living.

He (she) who sows the wind shall reap the whirlwind.

NATO has been caught flying this idiots all over the world. So when is this going to be applied to anyone who joins a foreign army or government?

[sea-man]

Originally Posted by TheBare

President Assad (who is bad) is a nasty guy who got so nasty his people rebelled and the Rebels (who are good) started winning (hurrah!).

But then some of the rebels turned a bit nasty and are now called Islamic State (who are definitely bad!) while some continued to support democracy (who are still good.) So the Americans (who are good) started bombing Islamic State (who are bad ) and giving arms to the Syrian Rebels (who are good ) so they could fight Assad (who is still bad) which was good. There is a breakaway state in the north run by the Kurds who want to fight IS (which is good) but the Turkish authorities think they are bad, so the U.S. says they are bad while secretly thinking they're good and giving them guns to fight IS (which is good) but that is another matter.

Getting back to Syria.
So President Putin (who is bad because he invaded Crimea and the Ukraine and killed lots of folks, including that nice Russian man in London with polonium poisoned sushi, has decided to back Assad (who is still bad) by attacking IS (who are also bad ) which is sort of a good thing (!?). But Putin (still bad) thinks the Syrian Rebels (who are good) are also bad, and so he bombs them too, much to the annoyance of the Americans (who are good) who are busy backing and arming the rebels (who are also good).

Now Iran (who used to be bad, but now they have agreed not to build any nuclear weapons with which to bomb Israel are now good) are going to provide ground troops to support Assad (still bad) as are the Russians (bad) who now have ground troops and aircraft in Syria.
So a Coalition of Assad (still bad) Putin (extra bad) and the Iranians (good, but in a bad sort of way) are going to attack IS (who are bad which is good, but also the Syrian Rebels (who are good) which is bad.

Now the British (obviously good, except that silly anti-Semite who leads the Labor Party, Mr. Corbyn in the corduroy jacket, who is bad) and the Americans (also good) cannot attack Assad (still bad) for fear of upsetting Putin (bad) and Iran (good/bad) and now they have to accept that Assad might not be that bad after all compared to IS (super bad -- see Paris, November 2015).
So Assad (bad) is now probably good, being better than IS and, because Putin and Iran are also fighting IS, that may now make them good. America (still good) will find it hard to arm a group of rebels being attacked by the Russians for fear of upsetting Mr. Putin (now good) and that nice mad Ayatollah in Iran (also good?) and so they may be forced to say that the Rebels are now bad, or at the very least abandon them to their fate. This will lead most of them to flee to Turkey and on to Europe or join IS (still the only consistently bad).
To Sunni Muslims an attack by Shia Muslims (Assad and Iran) backed by Russians will be seen as something of a Holy War. Therefore, the ranks of IS will now be seen by the Sunnis as the only Jihadis fighting in the Holy War and hence many Muslims will now see IS as good (duh).

Sunni Muslims will also see the lack of action by Britain and America in support of their Sunni rebel brothers as something of a betrayal (might have a point?) and hence we will be seen as bad. So now we have America (now bad) and Britain (also bad) providing limited support to Sunni Rebels (bad ) many of whom are looking to IS (good/bad ) for support against Assad (now good) who, along with Iran (also good) and Putin (now, straining credulity, good ) are attempting to retake the country Assad used to run before all this started.

Credit conquistador911

He is not a Anti Semite. He has stood up to bigots all his life. Are you going to provide proof? Or rely on the non Christian media? Where is the proof to back up anything else you have said? Tony Greenstein knows what he is talking about: http://azvsas.********.com/
He was physically assaulted and dragged off the baby buggering corp on live TV.
Semite is a race, not a religion.


JUDAISM IS A RELIGION - NOT A RACE

by: Rabbi Moses Jakubowicz

During the Middle Ages, the Jewish people suffered many a time from fanatically religious governments who expelled or killed whoever refused to adhere to their religious belief. In the modern era, the Jewish people suffer due to the world’s misunderstanding of the distinction between Judaism and Zionism.

Judaism is a religion, not a race. Throughout history, whoever joined the Jewish religion was called a jewish, no matter what his race, and whoever abandoned the Holy Torah was not considered a jewish. In fact, the biggest names in Jewish history were converts or descendants of converts: King David, Zipporah, Rabbi Akiva, Rabbi Meir, Shmaya and Avtalyon.

The proponents of Zionism, for their own political and financial advantage, have transformed the Jewish religion into a race. Similarly, they have taken the Torah, a book of Divine law which teaches fairness, peace and piety, and transformed it into a vehicle for their political goals, a source for their claims to a piece of land. These claims took their latest form this week, when, to our sorrow, the Zionist falsification was brought to the world’s eyes by the media.

President Bush is visiting the State of Israel, and several rabbis of the extremist Zionist settler community have penned a letter to the President, asking him to stop putting pressure on the Israeli leadership to make land concessions to the Palestinian Authority.

The letter read in part:

"It is totally presumptuous that while the US fights terror, it pressures Israel to make concessions to terrorists! In the name of the people of Israel, the Land of Israel, the Torah of Israel and the G-d of Israel, we demand that his honor the president cease the pressure on the State to hand lands to the Arabs… Honorable President, you must not be remembered in history as Nebuchadnezzar and Titus who destroyed Jerusalem. You must surely remember that American does not benefit from causing damage, Heaven forbid, to the Jewish people and its land. If you help the wholeness of our holy land, we promise you and your country endless blessings."

Signed: Dov Lior, David Druckman, Yaakov Yosef, Shmuel Eliyahu and Shalom Dov Wolpe.

The writers of this letter call themselves rabbis and speak in the name of the Jewish religion, but the world must not allow itself to be fooled. They are radical politicians and militants advancing their own agenda, for which they are distorting the Holy Torah and by doing so they are jeopardizing the Jewish people in the entire world as the Zionists did in the Second World War.

We look forward to the Messianic Era, when Jerusalem will be "a house of prayer for all nations" (Isaiah 56:7)

[link to www.jewsagainstzionism.com] people of G-d16.cfm

[jomama]

Facebook won’t take down an ad that Rep. Ilhan Omar’s office says could lead to harassment and death threats

Facebook has refused to remove a widely viewed attack ad that links Rep. Ilhan Omar to Hamas, even after her aides told the tech giant the message is inaccurate, hateful and threatened to subject her to death threats.

The controversy could further inflame tensions between Facebook and Democratic lawmakers, who say the social media company has failed to police its platform against known, viral falsehoods and refused to heed their cries about the real-world consequences of online speech.

The Minnesota Democrat’s office first reached out to Facebook on Tuesday after viewing ads from the pro-Israeli lobby, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. In one of the ads, Omar’s face is superimposed onto Hamas rockets, with text that claims: “When Israel targets Hamas, Rep. Omar calls it an act of terrorism.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...k-hamas-aipac/

[ellpieski]

Originally Posted by ********

Everyone Is Awesome: Lego to launch first LGBTQ+ set



https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...irst-lgbtq-set

Conservatives are losing their minds over this on Twitter. It's hilarious. Apparently you aren't allowed to spray your toys in rainbow colours now. Anything less than being a dick to LGBTQ+ people is banned.

Calls to cancel Lego have already started, as usual the rightist's first choice is censorship.

Not only are conservatives not giving a shit, most don't even know or care about this. It has not been mentioned at all on any of the conservative sites i frequent, or any of the the mainstream news sites either. Covid masks and Israel rule the day.

[Decadence]

Originally Posted by jomama

The Minnesota Democrat’s office first reached out to Facebook on Tuesday after viewing ads from the pro-Israeli lobby, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. In one of the ads, Omar’s face is superimposed onto Hamas rockets, with text that claims: “When Israel targets Hamas, Rep. Omar calls it an act of terrorism.”

She did.. and does. As do all of her squad buddies. And then cries foul when there's push back?



Fortunately, Israel's main concern is defending itself rather than trying to appease its enemies.