[solved TNC] Gail Winnicott - Request 8

[Rubinski]

Originally Posted by effCup

The Carol Lord name is also from Mayfair: 20-11, 1985-11.

The one that's missing a 2-part name for a thread is blonde (tennis) model: Pauline | Juliet | Isabelle...

Newlook (Fr) no.95, 1991-06 in some filler-type pics. calls her both Sylvia D & Nathalie R.

One of her pics. is said to be from Lui, 1987-02 but with no name attached. A quick search of the Lui mag. thread for "*87" found no posts with that text, so that leaves 74pp. to search visually for posts from that issue.

Had a phantom post, so I'm reposting

I found that Mayfair, and have an old scan from it with the Carol Lord ID.



Checked the layout, and did not see the facial spots, but looks a lot like the brunette.

If it is her, the Carol Lord ID was earlier, so might as well go with the ID on the thread.
Add the Gail and TC scans and AKAs to the Carol thread.

Back to the Blonde.

Does anyone think she is the same girl as the brunette?

I checked all the threads with Pauline, Juliet, and Isabelle in the title bar.
I did not look in depth on every one of those threads, but did not see the blonde.
Mostly the soft core model and celeb threads, but a few CP.
Skipped the modern models threads.
Ran out of steam on Sylvia (too many threads to check), but I checked page 1 of the results.

Not sure if the Nathalie R. ID is printed on that page for the blonde.
Maybe someone who speaks French can tell us.
Here's the link for Newlook #95.
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...&postcount=236
It's on the right hand page of that 2 page scan.


Seems like I've seen her in the tennis session before, in some US pub.

Like Oui, Cheri, Genesis, or Gallery.
Oui kind of makes sense since I think they sometimes used the same photo sessions as Lui.
Not sure if I have the mag(s) I saw her in.
I'll look more tomorrow.

[effCup]

Here's the scans:

Originally Posted by Joszka

The second one, TL, shows Sylvia D. The third one, BR, shows Nathalie R. I'll assume red circles are unnecessary. I was not suggesting either of those as an "id", just listing the names so far.

Originally Posted by effCup

The one that's missing a 2-part name for a thread is blonde (tennis) model

Now I'm repeating myself. Now I'm...

[Rubinski]

I see the 2 'IDs', no circles necessary for me.

Sorry if you did not understand what I was saying.

Why would this magazine would call her Sylvia D, then a few pages later call her Nathalie R?
That's one reason I question if the text with Nathalie R is really there as an ID for the blonde.
That's why I asked for someone who knows French for their opinion.
Someone who can translate it might be able to tell us.
It looks like they are talking about a girl in some video.
Pretty sure it does not say the girl to the left is Nathalie R.

So, that's why I did not search for a thread with Nathalie in the title bar.
If you believe it is worth looking for, have fun.

I did finish looking through the Sylvia thread possibilities.
I didn't see the blonde anywhere, but that doesn't mean I didn't miss something.

Perhaps we can call her thread Sylvia D until something better comes to light.

That is, as long as the blonde is not Carol/Gail
Does anyone think they are the same?

[effCup]

Originally Posted by Rubinski

Why would this magazine would call her Sylvia D, then a few pages later call her Nathalie R?
That's one reason I question if the text with Nathalie R is really there as an ID for the blonde.
That's why I asked for someone who knows French for their opinion.
Someone who can translate it might be able to tell us.
It looks like they are talking about a girl in some video.
Pretty sure it does not say the girl to the left is Nathalie R.

google says the first bit reads:

"In her studio in the rue Pierre Levallois-Perret (93), Nathalie R. revisits the video of Roland-Garros 1990."

So she's supposedly watching a video of the tennis.

I don't know why the mag. gave the same model two different names. It's not a single-model pictorial. The female names do not pertain to the male tennis players or (pretend?) umpire, pictured.

Several sets in Newlook from around this time seemed to use such cut & paste type images/"story"--i.e. pics. of skin model(s) against some unrelated "context". In this case it's tennis; I think in one other it was football (soccer), several were linked with particular French cities, etc. In this case there is more of a connexion than most in that the model's pictured on a tennis court.

The names shown in the text may seem quite arbitrary but then again in such skin mags. when are they not?

I think you're investing way more significance in these Newlook names than I did. I guess time to repeat myself again:

Originally Posted by effCup

I was not suggesting either of those as an "id", just listing the names so far.

[effCup]

Originally Posted by effCup

One of her pics. is said to be from Lui, 1987-02

Not the same scan as posted to the model thread but the same pic. thanks to polvomax. Unfortunately the only provenance is "1980s".

Originally Posted by polvomax

More 80's samples

[Rubinski]

Well, she's not in a studio, or looking at a video.
I went ahead and checked the Nathalie threads, but did not see the blonde.
Could have missed something.

Then I compared the brunette and the blonde to figure out if they could be the same.

Their faces are similar, but some minor differences.
The blonde seems to have lighter colored eyes in many pix.
Maybe more blue.
Brunette's eyes seem more brown.
But maybe they are both green in some pix.

Eye shape seems a little different but nothing solid to point out.

Eyebrows seem to be plucked different.
Brunette in a smooth arc, with a bit of a peak.
Blonde with straight out and up a bit, then curve down.
She could have changed how she plucked them

Noses are close, but something seems different.
Can't get a good enough comparison to be sure.

Mouths and chins are very close.

I do think the blonde has larger breasts. At least one cup size?
Maybe she aged a couple of years and they ripened into the bigger size.
Areolas seem very similar, but blonde's are a little bigger in some pix.
Nipples are similar, but blonde's seem to be more innie.

Their navels do seem to be different.
Seems like a solid differences there.
Also unmatched spots in that area.





Add in the other missing and unmatched spots, and I think they must be different girls.

Anyone disagree?

[Rubinski]

FYI - The Gail thread posts were moved into Carol Lord's thread
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/showthread.php?p=75222

The tennis blonde was removed from Gail's thread to this thread here
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/t34...-needs-id.html

If you can help us ID the blonde, or have more content, please post it in that thread.
The research done on her so far will stay here.

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Those members with a post in these threads should still be subscribed.

[birdman_london]

To Rubinski: the fit, dyed-blonde (French) tennis player *is* Carol Lord, by various aliases (Gail Winnicott, Isabelle, Juliet...). 'The eyes don't lie', and both have sun-freckles across their upper cheeks; also, she was shot both as a natural brunette and as a bottle-blonde contemporaneously by French photographers (Michel Moreau and Serge Jacques, respectively).

(To moderators: that's the last loose end tied up, I believe.)