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August 6th, 2011, 06:17 PM | #111 |
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I've done a bit of digging.
Double jeopardy was finished in the UK in 2005 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4406129.stm
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1-5 years of that is enough to shut most people up. You don't need longer sentences to teach people to regret (mostly) |
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I don't know about the UK, but in the US actual jury trials ending in acquittal are not common in the first place. Of cases brought, probably %80 will result in a guilty plea, the remainder will go to trial, with about half resulting in a guilty verdict . . . so perhaps %10 of criminal defendants are actually acquitted here. ah . . . but the point I was making is: they already are. Cold and far away. And hot in the summer. Its not at all pleasant in prison in the US. . . . |
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Now yes,mistakes were made before and could be made again,But they have been made in the meantime and innocent people spent a lot of time in jail.No one can give them that time back or wipe out the trauma for them. |
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I must admit I am torn on this one. If the police cannot make a case stick when they originally try to, it is hardly fair that they can hound a man/woman for the same crime twice. But that's the job of the Court of Appeal, to throw out cases where malice rather than fresh evidence lies behind the application. I just wish I had more confidence in the Court of Appeal.
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I think if I was on trial for my life I would be (and would have been when the death sentence was extant) anxious to say the least that my fate rested with those 12 |
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I think those who want it back should remember Derek Bentley. If he can hang but was innocent, then surely some of those that want it back could be found guilty of something they didn't do, they could then hang, if even if they are innocent?
They would have effectively signed their own death warrant. As for the argument that "It would save the taxpayer a lot of money". Well, surely it would be quite expensive to have a decent appeals procedure going on? Look at the USA. Many on Death row have been there Decades, which means not only has the taxpayer funded the appeals procedure and paid for the execution, they've also paid for the food, clothes, building, bed and prison staff to keep the prisoner alive just so they can be killed! Look at the system that Britain had: Prisoner sentenced and hung within a couple of months. Is that enough time for a proper appeals procedure? And how is it 'civilised' to legally murder soemone just so that each taxpayer pays a couple of pence less tax?
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Seany,Derek Bentley's conviction was clearly unsafe at the time and even the poor copper's widow was against his execution.Questions have to be asked not only about the competence but also the motives of those in a position to stop it who declined to do so.
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