The Football Thread - Page 2209

**pierrelm** · December 22nd, 2018, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Meini Again

Ole coming back to Man U..... Unfortunately ~ imo ... Joy and Naivety will lose .
He's gone from "Wanting Players to ENJOY Footie Again" ~ to portraying himself as a hard taskmaster in 24 hours.
Even if he had SAF on the touchline when 'training' I doubt that would impress those multi-millionaires.... do they actually "KNOW" Man Utd... do they actually care ?

They've already shown that, with a couple of honourable exceptions, no they ruddy well don't care about much, except the face in the mirror. Roy Keane trashed the attitude of modern pros and he's about right; I suspect half the squad would quite like to win things, but feel sufficiently insulated by their prestigious shirt 'brand' and preposterous salaries.

There's a significant proportion of that current squad who really don't care enough. MU will continue to lollop about on the edges until someone comes along with big enough cojones to boot out those players who are clearly coasting through their careers and fire up the imagination of the players who do give a damn. If it doesn't happen soon, the likes of Rashford might find a significant part of their early career spoiled beyond redemption. And the MUFC academy don't appear to be the supply chain it once was...whereas, across the Citeh...

It don't need evolution it needs a red revolution.

I'm currently enjoyed my team playing the best football I've seen at Elland Rd for years, served up by a collection of ragtags and bobtails who last season looked more likely to be at the lower end of the division. Thjat's entirely down to one man: Bielsa. He's fired up some very average players and formed them into a team.
We're sitting on top of a division where beneath us there are at least a handful of squads with considerably better playing staff. If he gets us promoted, then it'll be not much short of a miracle - but what it does show is the value of having a coach who really is a leader, can communicate his vision, forge a real team and is determined to get rid of the hangers-on (20+players have left the club since he arrived).

This is arguably, the best time of year for being a football supporter. I used to love the walk up to the ground, or travelling through daft weather across the pennines or up to Newcastle for Boxing Day games.

Whatever you're doing, enjoy yourselves and hopefully the blighters you support might put a smile on your faces over the festive excesses!

**Motorboater** · December 22nd, 2018, 07:15 AM

If Roy Keane was right, he'd be a good manager.

For players who are passionate, it's too easy to go somewhere else.

The way you're talking about Marcelo Bielsa, he might be the next Utd manager!

**Old Jud** · December 22nd, 2018, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Meini Again

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46655752

Dynamic Words.....

Meet your BOARD Ole.......

I love Fairy Tales, TF coming back to Blues, is on a par with Ole coming back to Man U..... Unfortunately ~ imo ... Joy and Naivety will lose .

He's gone from "Wanting Players to ENJOY Footie Again" ~ to portraying himself as a hard taskmaster

_ in 24 hours.

I've always liked Ole ~ as a player ~ BUT as a Manager - No Way Jose !

Even if he had SAF on the touchline when 'training' I doubt that would impress those multi-millionaires.... do they actually "KNOW" Man Utd... do they actually care ?

'Hairdryer' Ole? Don't think so mate!

Ole is the type of manager who will listen to his players opinions and try to reason with them. This can be far more effective than the so-called 'hairdryer' treatment, or JM's sulky criticism of players.

Anyway, i'm looking forward to tonight's match, good luck lads and good luck Ole!

**victor meldrew** · December 22nd, 2018, 02:13 PM

Christmas the season of goodwill, unless you are Lady Brady.

Leave the Chinese balls at home and stfu.

**seldomseen** · December 22nd, 2018, 02:59 PM

My goodness City 1 Palace 2. Liverpool fans will be relishing this.

**victor meldrew** · December 22nd, 2018, 03:06 PM

Mid table premiership crap. Neither side can defend or take chances, the pen apart, it would be goal less.

**pierrelm** · December 22nd, 2018, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by seldomseen

My goodness City 1 Palace 2. Liverpool fans will be relishing this.

Palace now 1-3 up with a penalty...

a happy Christmas surprise in waiting for the Holmesdalers? Aguero now on for Citeh...

**Motorboater** · December 23rd, 2018, 08:16 AM

Townsend's goal? ******* Hell!!!!

Better than Shearer's against Everton, and Zidane's in the CL final.

**victor meldrew** · December 23rd, 2018, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pierrelm

This is arguably, the best time of year for being a football supporter. I used to love the walk up to the ground, or travelling through daft weather across the pennines or up to Newcastle for Boxing Day games.

Whatever you're doing, enjoy yourselves and hopefully the blighters you support might put a smile on your faces over the festive excesses!

Not if you were a young Hammer, losing both Xmas games to the Spuds, 2-0 @ the Lane Xmas eve and a 3-0 tonking on boxing day at Up 1960.

1963 losing 8-2 at home to the Bryan Douglas XI (Blackburn) we also hit the woodwork twice, but young Bryan had the ball glued to his feet, both very tearful Christmas times.

Merry Christmas to you all and if your venturing out to a game, just enjoy.

**pierrelm** · December 23rd, 2018, 02:54 PM

Meanwhile, back in the Championship:
Villa Park - a match between the two best supported clubs in the league sees 41,000 fill Villa Park to see the home side take advantage of Leeds' continuing injury woes (all the bench are academy graduates), as Douglas named but almost immediately withdrawn and a last minuted debut ensues for yet another Leeds youngster. Villa, along with WBA, have the strongest squad in the division and in John McGinn, their signing from Hibs, have comfortably the best player in the division. If you liked Townsends goal v Citeh watch this beauty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2VSH3wLMsQ

Villa take a 2-0 lead with Tammy Abraham scoring yet again. Leeds have a good penalty shout denied, but despite their lead, Villa's defence looks shaky...Leeds under Bielsa don't give up...

Jack Clark, a great 19 yr old prospect from our academy pulls one back with his first for the club and Pontus Janson who always seems to score against Villa, obliges with an equalizer...Last minute, Kemar Roofe, living proof that good managers can get the best out of any player, clinches a 3 goal comeback and Leeds return to the top of the table...

HAPPY CHRISTMAS!

December 22nd, 2018, 02:59 PM	#22085
seldomseen Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 38,203 Thanks: 127,400 Thanked 712,127 Times in 38,112 Posts	My goodness City 1 Palace 2. Liverpool fans will be relishing this. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------- Some hae meat, and canna eat.

December 22nd, 2018, 07:15 AM	#22082
Motorboater Vintage Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 4,333 Thanks: 41,558 Thanked 38,389 Times in 4,306 Posts	If Roy Keane was right, he'd be a good manager. For players who are passionate, it's too easy to go somewhere else. The way you're talking about Marcelo Bielsa, he might be the next Utd manager!

December 22nd, 2018, 02:13 PM	#22084
victor meldrew Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: At the bottom of an empty glass Posts: 15,788 Thanks: 532,085 Thanked 180,248 Times in 15,773 Posts	Christmas the season of goodwill, unless you are Lady Brady. Leave the Chinese balls at home and stfu.

December 22nd, 2018, 03:06 PM	#22086
victor meldrew Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: At the bottom of an empty glass Posts: 15,788 Thanks: 532,085 Thanked 180,248 Times in 15,773 Posts	Mid table premiership crap. Neither side can defend or take chances, the pen apart, it would be goal less.

December 23rd, 2018, 08:16 AM	#22088
Motorboater Vintage Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 4,333 Thanks: 41,558 Thanked 38,389 Times in 4,306 Posts	Townsend's goal? ******* Hell!!!! Better than Shearer's against Everton, and Zidane's in the CL final.

December 23rd, 2018, 02:54 PM	#22090
pierrelm Vintage Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Midst the fen mists Posts: 5,450 Thanks: 55,798 Thanked 72,925 Times in 5,422 Posts	Meanwhile, back in the Championship: Villa Park - a match between the two best supported clubs in the league sees 41,000 fill Villa Park to see the home side take advantage of Leeds' continuing injury woes (all the bench are academy graduates), as Douglas named but almost immediately withdrawn and a last minuted debut ensues for yet another Leeds youngster. Villa, along with WBA, have the strongest squad in the division and in John McGinn, their signing from Hibs, have comfortably the best player in the division. If you liked Townsends goal v Citeh watch this beauty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2VSH3wLMsQ Villa take a 2-0 lead with Tammy Abraham scoring yet again. Leeds have a good penalty shout denied, but despite their lead, Villa's defence looks shaky...Leeds under Bielsa don't give up... Jack Clark, a great 19 yr old prospect from our academy pulls one back with his first for the club and Pontus Janson who always seems to score against Villa, obliges with an equalizer...Last minute, Kemar Roofe, living proof that good managers can get the best out of any player, clinches a 3 goal comeback and Leeds return to the top of the table... HAPPY CHRISTMAS!