Post "removed" mystery

**hobbs** · March 8th, 2016, 07:46 PM

Every now and then when I check the "reputation received" list in the User Control page, I see a "removed by - - -" notation.

There is never any explanation for why the post was removed. Would help to know the reason so that I don't repeat the same offense again some time. Maybe in a PM to me?

**rotobott** · March 8th, 2016, 08:04 PM

Everybody who posts get's a few removed, you can usually work out why your post was removed if you read the rules, they can vary from section to section.

If you are truly perplexed, a polite PM to the mod concerned will probably get you the answer.

As a rule they don't normally PM people whose posts they remove, unless you've been very naughty.

**hound dog** · March 8th, 2016, 08:10 PM

I would venture the guess that every member who is not or never has been a moderator and has had a post deleted has wondered why and thought exactly as you are now. I certainly did when I noticed it had happened to me.

Moderating is a very time consuming job, and contrary to belief, they aren't paid for their time and efforts. Moderator's do it for the personal satisfaction in knowing their efforts help the forum to be the best it can be. Even Max Joker, (don't believe him, he isn't payed a million dollar salary for his work here). If you can't even hazard a guess as to why it was removed, I'd suggest looking at the list of moderators for that particular area of the forum, you can see their user names displayed at the bottom of that particular general topics page, and send them a polite private message asking why. My experience is that one of them will eventually get back to you explaining why it was most likely deleted.

The important thing is to realize that it's not personal and they felt there was a valid reason for it's deletion.

**hobbs** · March 8th, 2016, 08:31 PM

I guess the point (which I should have stated) is that the notation doesn't even tell me which post was removed, and there doesn't seem to be any way to find out. When I click on the link in the notation, it just comes up as invalid or not available.

If I could tell which post was removed, then yes, it would at least be a clue as to the reason.

Is there any way to tell which post was removed?

**hound dog** · March 8th, 2016, 08:39 PM

I don't think there is, once a post is deleted, it's gone. When it has happened to me, it's usually a recent post, so I'll have an idea where and what I posted, giving me an idea why it was deleted.

Happened to me this morning actually.

If you have no idea where you posted, let alone what you posted, don't worry about it, like rotobott said, if it was very naughty they'd make sure to give you a warning not to do it again.

**rotobott** · March 8th, 2016, 08:51 PM

If it wasn't a recent post, chances are it was a post where the links, images etc, have died and they were cleaning it up, just gave you a thanks in appreciation while they were doing it.

**hobbs** · March 8th, 2016, 09:26 PM

The 'removed' note comes up sometimes when I have not posted anything new in a while. If it's because of a dead link, it would be good to know which post was deleted in case I care to re-post with a new link.
Oh well, I get it it. Too bad though.
I'll stop whining about it now...

**Pepper II** · March 9th, 2016, 01:19 AM

The members' replies here are pretty much spot-on. I must admit I rarely send a message when I remove a post. I usually only do that when I notice a repetitive mistake and I want this posting habit to be curtailed.

There are many reasons to remove a post and they're largely subjective. Rule violations are an obvious reason but most of the threads undergo a periodic cleaning. Posts may be removed which are redundant, outdated, have dead links, etc. If a post was removed for some rule violation a message is normally sent so it seems you're in the clear.

I've been an active member for a long time and I can tell you I was completely unaware of how much work goes on behind the scenes when I became a Mod. There's just no way to send a message for every routine removal.

**-Lucifer-** · March 9th, 2016, 11:07 AM

We know it can lead to frustration, but like PepperII sais, we simply don't have the manpower to explain it on every post.
We hope you understand.

Quote:

VEF Forum Rules

Basic Rules

VEF moderators reserve the right to remove or edit posts without notice. When this happens - do not repost! Due to our limited resources, you may not receive a message explaining the removal. An explanation will almost always be found in the Forum Rules.

**blazes** · March 10th, 2016, 11:00 AM

In the few times this has happened to me the considered mod never failed to answer my request about what and why something was deleted

It would be handy though to see automatically what posts are removed for sometimes updating/re-upping them would be no big deal (ie in case of dead links).

March 8th, 2016, 07:46 PM	#1
hobbs Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 659 Thanks: 4,197 Thanked 21,343 Times in 603 Posts	Post "removed" mystery Every now and then when I check the "reputation received" list in the User Control page, I see a "removed by - - -" notation. There is never any explanation for why the post was removed. Would help to know the reason so that I don't repeat the same offense again some time. Maybe in a PM to me? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. My signature picture is the beautiful and all too rarely seen Celine Devoux. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

March 8th, 2016, 08:31 PM	#4
hobbs Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 659 Thanks: 4,197 Thanked 21,343 Times in 603 Posts	I guess the point (which I should have stated) is that the notation doesn't even tell me which post was removed, and there doesn't seem to be any way to find out. When I click on the link in the notation, it just comes up as invalid or not available. If I could tell which post was removed, then yes, it would at least be a clue as to the reason. Is there any way to tell which post was removed? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. My signature picture is the beautiful and all too rarely seen Celine Devoux. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

March 8th, 2016, 09:26 PM	#7
hobbs Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 659 Thanks: 4,197 Thanked 21,343 Times in 603 Posts	The 'removed' note comes up sometimes when I have not posted anything new in a while. If it's because of a dead link, it would be good to know which post was deleted in case I care to re-post with a new link. Oh well, I get it it. Too bad though. I'll stop whining about it now... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. My signature picture is the beautiful and all too rarely seen Celine Devoux. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

March 10th, 2016, 11:00 AM	#10
blazes Vintage Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: In my house Posts: 6,714 Thanks: 52,159 Thanked 119,728 Times in 6,766 Posts	In the few times this has happened to me the considered mod never failed to answer my request about what and why something was deleted It would be handy though to see automatically what posts are removed for sometimes updating/re-upping them would be no big deal (ie in case of dead links). __________________ I have decided to leave VEF, but I will pop in from time to time to check my PMs at least. So if there are problems w/ my posts please let me know. I really enjoyed my stay in this nice community To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

March 8th, 2016, 08:04 PM	#2
rotobott Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 32,106 Thanks: 174,782 Thanked 634,615 Times in 31,427 Posts	Everybody who posts get's a few removed, you can usually work out why your post was removed if you read the rules, they can vary from section to section. If you are truly perplexed, a polite PM to the mod concerned will probably get you the answer. As a rule they don't normally PM people whose posts they remove, unless you've been very naughty.

March 8th, 2016, 08:10 PM	#3
hound dog Vintage Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: West Coast of North America Posts: 1,104 Thanks: 6,453 Thanked 18,732 Times in 1,087 Posts	I would venture the guess that every member who is not or never has been a moderator and has had a post deleted has wondered why and thought exactly as you are now. I certainly did when I noticed it had happened to me. Moderating is a very time consuming job, and contrary to belief, they aren't paid for their time and efforts. Moderator's do it for the personal satisfaction in knowing their efforts help the forum to be the best it can be. Even Max Joker, (don't believe him, he isn't payed a million dollar salary for his work here). If you can't even hazard a guess as to why it was removed, I'd suggest looking at the list of moderators for that particular area of the forum, you can see their user names displayed at the bottom of that particular general topics page, and send them a polite private message asking why. My experience is that one of them will eventually get back to you explaining why it was most likely deleted. The important thing is to realize that it's not personal and they felt there was a valid reason for it's deletion.

March 8th, 2016, 08:39 PM	#5
hound dog Vintage Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: West Coast of North America Posts: 1,104 Thanks: 6,453 Thanked 18,732 Times in 1,087 Posts	I don't think there is, once a post is deleted, it's gone. When it has happened to me, it's usually a recent post, so I'll have an idea where and what I posted, giving me an idea why it was deleted. Happened to me this morning actually. If you have no idea where you posted, let alone what you posted, don't worry about it, like rotobott said, if it was very naughty they'd make sure to give you a warning not to do it again.

March 8th, 2016, 08:51 PM	#6
rotobott Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 32,106 Thanks: 174,782 Thanked 634,615 Times in 31,427 Posts	If it wasn't a recent post, chances are it was a post where the links, images etc, have died and they were cleaning it up, just gave you a thanks in appreciation while they were doing it.

March 9th, 2016, 01:19 AM	#8
Pepper II Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sunny South Florida Posts: 7,853 Thanks: 163,956 Thanked 119,243 Times in 7,641 Posts	The members' replies here are pretty much spot-on. I must admit I rarely send a message when I remove a post. I usually only do that when I notice a repetitive mistake and I want this posting habit to be curtailed. There are many reasons to remove a post and they're largely subjective. Rule violations are an obvious reason but most of the threads undergo a periodic cleaning. Posts may be removed which are redundant, outdated, have dead links, etc. If a post was removed for some rule violation a message is normally sent so it seems you're in the clear. I've been an active member for a long time and I can tell you I was completely unaware of how much work goes on behind the scenes when I became a Mod. There's just no way to send a message for every routine removal.