Downloading new porn, wanking to old porn - Page 3

bill_the_cat · February 17th, 2014, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by billybunter

It's called being addicted to porn

I have lots of stuff i've downloaded and haven't even looked at/watched. But I will someday.

I'm like that too, a crap load of images/movies that I have at most, glanced at once for a split second, a long time ago.

Only a few that I have actually used to wank too...

Is it an addiction to porn? I'm not so sure about that....it's an addiction, but more to collecting than the "porn" aspect. If anything, it's more similar to hoarding...having stuff just to have, not that you'll ever use it or really care about and wont throw away. I'm like that in my garage...I find that yes it's a mess, but it's not a mess because I'm lazy, I just hold onto stuff because I don't want to throw it out and really don't have anywhere to put it.

**KingKeigh** · February 17th, 2014, 09:24 PM

Guilty as charged. With all the formats of porn I have from hard drive to magazines, I still go back to my old original favorites. I've got loads of porn I've never opened, never fully viewed and/or only utilized once. Im just hoarding right now in case of a nuclear attack or zombie holocaust.

It's gotten so ridiculous, I have one old video I bookmarked several years ago and last month I literally watched it online every night for 3 weeks straight while my girlfriend was away visiting her mother. . It's only 10 minutes long but I could rarely make it to the 8:30 mark before I popped. Sometimes sooner. It's not even a professionally done LA porn vid. Just some amateur vid of a chunky chick masturbating with her fingers and a dildo until she squirts but I seem to be quite addicted to it. I'm obviously very easy to please these days.

**KingKeigh** · February 17th, 2014, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinnLaneLover

What I find absolutely awesome about internet porn is finding scenes/movies that I thought I would never see again. There have been times when I thought they were lost to time only to find them online. That is awesome.

I also like the fact that you don't have to clutter up your house with tons of vhs tapes and mags anymore. The only drawback is you have to back up your collection though - I've had a computer die on my twice and I lost my collection both times. I won't make that mistake again!

That was my problem several years ago. I had to move again and I realized I had a crate full of vhs, three crates full of magazines and another crate of dvds. I finally went out and bought a dual vhs/dvd recorder and started editing and burning all of my vhs to disc. I had approximately 162 hours of porn on tape. By the time I kept the scenes I wanted and threw out the rest, I was still left with 94 hours of porn but in a tidier 6-8 hour cd format. 14 cds are a lot easier to hide and move than 40 vhs tapes. Then I was able to put it on a hard drive for easy access.

The internet helps a lot because now I don't spend a lot of money and space on girlie porn I have to hide or cover up when I have company. I can just go to the virtual world and find something different every night.

**Baranovich** · February 18th, 2014, 09:03 PM

My fellow V.E.F. comrades,

Without getting too preachy about it, or turning this thread into a porn addiction therapy group, there are some things I want to say about this that I have strong assertions and feelings about.

I would venture to say that there are more porn addicts on V.E.F than would want to admit it. I only say that because of the fact that what qualifies as "addict" to me is probably something others would say doesn't qualify.

Before the internet came into my sphere of reality, in the 80s and early 90s, I fell back on choice moments in VHS porn movies that became my masturbating holy grails. Same went for magazines, a collection had specific issues and specific pictorials targeted for repeated masturbation.

With the internet porn, I think it's the same dynamic as simply having too many choices and too much access as with anything else. You'll surf 500 cable channels simply because THEY ARE THERE. You'll go numb because there is too much abundance. And sometimes, you'll mindlessly surf channels and never actually watch anything or stop to focus on anything. The surfing becomes an activity and event all of its own.

The internet has been a technological revolution, in both good and bad ways. Porn, along with everything else, got swept up in it. With the information of the world literally at our fingertips, it can be used for good or for ill. It can enhance our lives, or damage our lives. Or both.

I have become more aware of myself, especially in recent years of how porn has changed my attention span and short-circuited my brain with regards to masturbation and arousal.

Some people on this thread have alluded to the dynamic that the chase is often more thrilling than the actual capture. Very true when pursuing real women to be sure. That moment where you know you're about to get what you went after, that first kiss, that first time a woman let's you cross that barrier, that walk into a strange girl's bedroom and you know she's going to give you the ultimate primal reward. It's why first experiences with a new female are so powerful. That moment where you take a chance and advance a cuddle or a hug to the next level, and kiss a girl's neck not knowing if she'll accept it.....and the moment where she responds with a "YES".... that rush is profound and is at the core of our sexual beings.

The problem with internet porn is that it has short-circuited all of us to some degree or another. For some of us, our brains are more receptive and responsive to porn than it is to an actual real woman or partner. For others, we fall somewhere in between.

And how could it not? Dopamine, the "pleasure chemical", is artificially jacked up when we view something that sexually excites us. If we view porn for hours, weeks, months, and years, we become accustomed to that high level of dopamine, that high level of arousal, and can maintain it for hours when masturbating and constantly viewing new content.

Essentially, old porn(magazine and VHS) put a cap or limit, so to speak, on how much you could view and consume at any one time. Yes, you could have a huge magazine collection, or a huge VHS collection, but you were still limited in how much of "the drug" you could give yourself, because you could only have so much content in your possession. Your brain could fall back on "classic" picture sets or "classic" scenes repetitively, and be aroused by them repetitively, because you didn't have any other choice. If you had an issue of let's say P.H., April 1983, well that magazine didn't change from day to day. If a pictorial in it became a masturbating regular, you'd go back to it and you'd respond to it.

In other words, what you don't have you don't miss, at least to some degree.

I often doubt the whole notion of commitment to one partner, wife, or spouse being a healthy thing. It most certainly goes against everything we are biologically. In fact it's totally counter-intuitive to what we are as biological sexual creatures. Biologically, we are supposed to spread our seed and engage in sex wherever and whenever possible.

Ultimately, we are still to this day, little more than cavemen dressed up in suits and ties.

Internet porn has put a unique twist into all of this. I can say that I am most certainly an addict. The speed and efficiency at which I can fill up a hard drive is astonishing and somewhat disturbing to me. The speed at which I can be totally and amazingly turned on by the discovery of a new girl or a new porn star, and then just as quickly become completely tired of them and move right on to the next one.

I have often times had to stop myself when surfing porn, literally stop myself, because I will get into a rhythmic ritual once I find a new "it" girl or "it" website, or scene, or genre, and I obsessively search for hours and hours to get every possible set, scene, and free bit of content I can get on that one girl or movie.

Where I scare myself the most are those times when I began to realize that the actual search was giving me more of a thrill than the actual masturbation was. I was getting hundreds of Dopamine hits off of seeing the girl dressed in one thing, then seeing her from behind, then seeing her on her back, then seeing her in a cumshot scene.... and on and on and on.

That endless loop of constantly giving ourselves those thousands of "hits" of Dopamine from the obsessive searches, is the essence of what internet porn is.

It's a little scary to me that a picture set that this morning was the hottest thing I ever saw in my life, is suddenly lifeless and meaningless to me, and must be replaced with a new girl and a fresh set of picture sets.

That whole dynamic has consumed days, weekends, whole weeks committed at times to saturating myself with searching for content.

The problem is that one person, one woman, one partner, can't POSSIBLY compete on a Dopamine pleasure level what hundreds of porn hits can give you in a few hours. As far as your brain is concerned, it doesn't care whether you are ever really getting laid or not. Your brain doesn't care how lonely you are. All it cares about is where is the next round of pleasure coming from, when is it going "to be fed again".

Once your brain has become accustomed to being stimulated by hundreds of Dopamine hits, turned on staying turned on by the constant stream of viewing girls all in the prime of their youth and bodies, your favorite hair color, breast size, costume, setting.... there is no possible way that a real woman, one single woman can provide the same stimulation, at least not as far as your brain is concerned.

A woman in bed can only provide one body, one face, and one "pleasure hit". Porn can give you hundreds of pleasure hits in that same amount of time. The odds are totally stacked against the real woman having any chance of competing with the thrill, arousal, and rush that porn can give.

If you think I am exaggerating about that, do a search about porn addiction stories. Some of them truly astonished me. Guys with very attractive girlfriends or wives, sometimes downright HOT girlfriends and wives...some guys dating strippers or models even....and those guys were literally choosing porn over having actual sex with their partners. A beautiful girl literally laying in bed waiting for you, and the guy was choosing to be sitting at a computer jerking off. And again, it's because the brain wants to know where it can get the "most hits" of pleasure. It could care less whether or not the experience you are having sexually is a real experience or not. Dopamine doesn't care if you are actually having intercourse or not.

Porn works on the pleasure center of the brain practically identically to the way that cocaine, food, gambling, online gaming, and other addictions work on the brain. Many in psychology and psychiatry consider porn to actually be worse, if not the worst addiction of all. Some place it higher than cocaine as far as how hard it is to quit and how much of someone's life it consumes.

So there it is. Yep, I'm a porn addict. Nope, internet porn is not like the porn of the old days. It changed everything.

DarkDeveloper · February 18th, 2014, 09:56 PM

I thought I was the only one.... I am truly not alone anymore ;-)

Now that I know my 'predicament', is there a medical term for it? I'm thinking I should email Viz's 'Professor Fuck' and ask him for a definition...

Hmmm, let me think, Vintage Porn, Collecting?.... Pornllecting? (W)antique Collector? ;-)

bill_the_cat · February 20th, 2014, 02:39 PM

Looking back at my actions, I accept the theory that the act of searching for internet porn releases endless bursts of dopamine, creating a feed-back loop driving the person (me) to look for more porn. Perhaps it's just a matter of degree of the "addiction", but I've personally never put masturbation to porn ahead of a hungry pussy.

Though I do know that if my partner keeps my balls well drained, I generally have no interest in porn...but on the other hand, if I'm bored, I do tend to find myself looking though the Internets for new porn.

Curious to hear from others on this board about this issue?

Side note - I've been always amused by this topic:

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I often doubt the whole notion of commitment to one partner, wife, or spouse being a healthy thing. It most certainly goes against everything we are biologically. In fact it's totally counter-intuitive to what we are as biological sexual creatures. Biologically, we are supposed to spread our seed and engage in sex wherever and whenever possible.

Biologically, pretty much everything alive is a "sexual creature", even plants which, BTW, are pretty much the only higher life forms that spread their seed and engage in sex whenever and wherever possible. There are examples of animals pairing for life, other species the females chose select male(s) to mate with, while others, it's survival of the fittest. But bottom line, human society's rules actually allow substandard males to have mates...other wise, the prime males would be always busy fucking their days away while the male cast offs would be sulking on the internet, wanking to porn!

Wait a minute...

Anyway, my point is that I think your argument is just an attempt at rationalizing/legitimizing being a slut. :-)

DarkDeveloper · February 20th, 2014, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bill_the_cat

Though I do know that if my partner keeps my balls well drained, I generally have no interest in porn...but on the other hand, if I'm bored, I do tend to find myself looking though the Internets for new porn.

Two things spring to mind reading this:

Straight to the point, no messing about comment, but how would the Oxford Don on the BBC News make the same point? ;-) "There is a co-relation between the male's primal instinct for his apparatus to irrigate..."

And haven't you made the ultimate Feminist argument against porn! i.e. (Sid the Sexist) if wimmin drain mens balls dry, there'd be no need for porn, no porn = no sex crimes...etc ;-) (/Sid the Sexist)

You Sir, are a genius!

tittys n beer · February 21st, 2014, 03:05 AM

Certainly one of the greatest pleasures in browsing is finding a photo set you've never seen before featuring one of your favourite girls, or even discovering a new girl to drool over.

But for me, the greater pleasure is finding stuff I've not seen for years, or ID'ing a girl I've always liked (even if I've only ever seen one pic of her).
That Oh my god, that's HER, and that's her name and there are more pics of her" moment is what I really enjoy the most

This is especially true of Magazines like Mayfair, where the girl in question is often listed under a pseudonym, or appears as a pictorial in the readers confessions sections, where she isn't identified at all.

**Baranovich** · February 23rd, 2014, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkDeveloper

I thought I was the only one.... I am truly not alone anymore ;-)

Now that I know my 'predicament', is there a medical term for it? I'm thinking I should email Viz's 'Professor Fuck' and ask him for a definition...

Hmmm, let me think, Vintage Porn, Collecting?.... Pornllecting? (W)antique Collector? ;-)

It helps me feel better about myself if I refer to my addiction as "Senior Adult Content Coordinator", LOL. ;-)

lip · April 15th, 2017, 08:31 AM

I think a telltell sign is the fact that I found out recently how many times I stored some of my favourtite pics on my HD's. A many doubles and triples, the record was 18 times the same pic, stored over the last a few years, right-click-saved everytime I came up to it in the net, not knowing I already had it a few times over. Classic.

The same with porn movies and scenes. A lot of doubles and triples. (I found them by listing the files by size).

Good thing my addiction is also my hobby.

February 18th, 2014, 09:03 PM	#24
Baranovich Vintage Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Southwestern CT, U.S.A The Epicenter of Narcissism Posts: 2,165 Thanks: 34,117 Thanked 47,234 Times in 2,169 Posts	My fellow V.E.F. comrades, Without getting too preachy about it, or turning this thread into a porn addiction therapy group, there are some things I want to say about this that I have strong assertions and feelings about. I would venture to say that there are more porn addicts on V.E.F than would want to admit it. I only say that because of the fact that what qualifies as "addict" to me is probably something others would say doesn't qualify. Before the internet came into my sphere of reality, in the 80s and early 90s, I fell back on choice moments in VHS porn movies that became my masturbating holy grails. Same went for magazines, a collection had specific issues and specific pictorials targeted for repeated masturbation. With the internet porn, I think it's the same dynamic as simply having too many choices and too much access as with anything else. You'll surf 500 cable channels simply because THEY ARE THERE. You'll go numb because there is too much abundance. And sometimes, you'll mindlessly surf channels and never actually watch anything or stop to focus on anything. The surfing becomes an activity and event all of its own. The internet has been a technological revolution, in both good and bad ways. Porn, along with everything else, got swept up in it. With the information of the world literally at our fingertips, it can be used for good or for ill. It can enhance our lives, or damage our lives. Or both. I have become more aware of myself, especially in recent years of how porn has changed my attention span and short-circuited my brain with regards to masturbation and arousal. Some people on this thread have alluded to the dynamic that the chase is often more thrilling than the actual capture. Very true when pursuing real women to be sure. That moment where you know you're about to get what you went after, that first kiss, that first time a woman let's you cross that barrier, that walk into a strange girl's bedroom and you know she's going to give you the ultimate primal reward. It's why first experiences with a new female are so powerful. That moment where you take a chance and advance a cuddle or a hug to the next level, and kiss a girl's neck not knowing if she'll accept it.....and the moment where she responds with a "YES".... that rush is profound and is at the core of our sexual beings. The problem with internet porn is that it has short-circuited all of us to some degree or another. For some of us, our brains are more receptive and responsive to porn than it is to an actual real woman or partner. For others, we fall somewhere in between. And how could it not? Dopamine, the "pleasure chemical", is artificially jacked up when we view something that sexually excites us. If we view porn for hours, weeks, months, and years, we become accustomed to that high level of dopamine, that high level of arousal, and can maintain it for hours when masturbating and constantly viewing new content. Essentially, old porn(magazine and VHS) put a cap or limit, so to speak, on how much you could view and consume at any one time. Yes, you could have a huge magazine collection, or a huge VHS collection, but you were still limited in how much of "the drug" you could give yourself, because you could only have so much content in your possession. Your brain could fall back on "classic" picture sets or "classic" scenes repetitively, and be aroused by them repetitively, because you didn't have any other choice. If you had an issue of let's say P.H., April 1983, well that magazine didn't change from day to day. If a pictorial in it became a masturbating regular, you'd go back to it and you'd respond to it. In other words, what you don't have you don't miss, at least to some degree. I often doubt the whole notion of commitment to one partner, wife, or spouse being a healthy thing. It most certainly goes against everything we are biologically. In fact it's totally counter-intuitive to what we are as biological sexual creatures. Biologically, we are supposed to spread our seed and engage in sex wherever and whenever possible. Ultimately, we are still to this day, little more than cavemen dressed up in suits and ties. Internet porn has put a unique twist into all of this. I can say that I am most certainly an addict. The speed and efficiency at which I can fill up a hard drive is astonishing and somewhat disturbing to me. The speed at which I can be totally and amazingly turned on by the discovery of a new girl or a new porn star, and then just as quickly become completely tired of them and move right on to the next one. I have often times had to stop myself when surfing porn, literally stop myself, because I will get into a rhythmic ritual once I find a new "it" girl or "it" website, or scene, or genre, and I obsessively search for hours and hours to get every possible set, scene, and free bit of content I can get on that one girl or movie. Where I scare myself the most are those times when I began to realize that the actual search was giving me more of a thrill than the actual masturbation was. I was getting hundreds of Dopamine hits off of seeing the girl dressed in one thing, then seeing her from behind, then seeing her on her back, then seeing her in a cumshot scene.... and on and on and on. That endless loop of constantly giving ourselves those thousands of "hits" of Dopamine from the obsessive searches, is the essence of what internet porn is. It's a little scary to me that a picture set that this morning was the hottest thing I ever saw in my life, is suddenly lifeless and meaningless to me, and must be replaced with a new girl and a fresh set of picture sets. That whole dynamic has consumed days, weekends, whole weeks committed at times to saturating myself with searching for content. The problem is that one person, one woman, one partner, can't POSSIBLY compete on a Dopamine pleasure level what hundreds of porn hits can give you in a few hours. As far as your brain is concerned, it doesn't care whether you are ever really getting laid or not. Your brain doesn't care how lonely you are. All it cares about is where is the next round of pleasure coming from, when is it going "to be fed again". Once your brain has become accustomed to being stimulated by hundreds of Dopamine hits, turned on staying turned on by the constant stream of viewing girls all in the prime of their youth and bodies, your favorite hair color, breast size, costume, setting.... there is no possible way that a real woman, one single woman can provide the same stimulation, at least not as far as your brain is concerned. A woman in bed can only provide one body, one face, and one "pleasure hit". Porn can give you hundreds of pleasure hits in that same amount of time. The odds are totally stacked against the real woman having any chance of competing with the thrill, arousal, and rush that porn can give. If you think I am exaggerating about that, do a search about porn addiction stories. Some of them truly astonished me. Guys with very attractive girlfriends or wives, sometimes downright HOT girlfriends and wives...some guys dating strippers or models even....and those guys were literally choosing porn over having actual sex with their partners. A beautiful girl literally laying in bed waiting for you, and the guy was choosing to be sitting at a computer jerking off. And again, it's because the brain wants to know where it can get the "most hits" of pleasure. It could care less whether or not the experience you are having sexually is a real experience or not. Dopamine doesn't care if you are actually having intercourse or not. Porn works on the pleasure center of the brain practically identically to the way that cocaine, food, gambling, online gaming, and other addictions work on the brain. Many in psychology and psychiatry consider porn to actually be worse, if not the worst addiction of all. Some place it higher than cocaine as far as how hard it is to quit and how much of someone's life it consumes. So there it is. Yep, I'm a porn addict. Nope, internet porn is not like the porn of the old days. It changed everything. __________________ "Good luck, everyone..."

February 18th, 2014, 09:56 PM	#25
DarkDeveloper Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 186 Thanks: 309 Thanked 1,586 Times in 168 Posts	"Downloading new porn, wanking to old porn" I thought I was the only one.... I am truly not alone anymore ;-) Now that I know my 'predicament', is there a medical term for it? I'm thinking I should email Viz's 'Professor Fuck' and ask him for a definition... Hmmm, let me think, Vintage Porn, Collecting?.... Pornllecting? (W)antique Collector? ;-)

February 17th, 2014, 09:24 PM	#22
KingKeigh Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Southern NJ Posts: 514 Thanks: 1,834 Thanked 6,538 Times in 512 Posts	Guilty as charged. With all the formats of porn I have from hard drive to magazines, I still go back to my old original favorites. I've got loads of porn I've never opened, never fully viewed and/or only utilized once. Im just hoarding right now in case of a nuclear attack or zombie holocaust. It's gotten so ridiculous, I have one old video I bookmarked several years ago and last month I literally watched it online every night for 3 weeks straight while my girlfriend was away visiting her mother. . It's only 10 minutes long but I could rarely make it to the 8:30 mark before I popped. Sometimes sooner. It's not even a professionally done LA porn vid. Just some amateur vid of a chunky chick masturbating with her fingers and a dildo until she squirts but I seem to be quite addicted to it. I'm obviously very easy to please these days.

February 21st, 2014, 03:05 AM	#28
tittys n beer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 132 Thanks: 5,960 Thanked 1,880 Times in 124 Posts	Certainly one of the greatest pleasures in browsing is finding a photo set you've never seen before featuring one of your favourite girls, or even discovering a new girl to drool over. But for me, the greater pleasure is finding stuff I've not seen for years, or ID'ing a girl I've always liked (even if I've only ever seen one pic of her). That Oh my god, that's HER, and that's her name and there are more pics of her" moment is what I really enjoy the most This is especially true of Magazines like Mayfair, where the girl in question is often listed under a pseudonym, or appears as a pictorial in the readers confessions sections, where she isn't identified at all.

April 15th, 2017, 08:31 AM	#30
lip Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 239 Thanks: 26,162 Thanked 8,199 Times in 241 Posts	I think a telltell sign is the fact that I found out recently how many times I stored some of my favourtite pics on my HD's. A many doubles and triples, the record was 18 times the same pic, stored over the last a few years, right-click-saved everytime I came up to it in the net, not knowing I already had it a few times over. Classic. The same with porn movies and scenes. A lot of doubles and triples. (I found them by listing the files by size). Good thing my addiction is also my hobby.