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Old November 7th, 2018, 07:51 PM   #5131
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You been there ?
I never was in Japan. 20 years ago, I worked during one month with a Japanese team around several countries in Europe.
Among several "strange" social attitudes I observed with my Japanese clients, I remember when I was with their Japanese translator, I asked him what he disliked about Switzerland, he replied : "Too pure!"

A little bit earlier I also remember having read that they had distributors of dirty female teenagers underwears in some "red" areas of big cities.

Now... if you watch Japanese porno film, are you not surprised to watch that women actresses cry 95% of the time during the sexual act?
It's always a question of "vicious domination".

That's why I asked... Are Japanese more decadent than British people?
As British citizen who several times were in Japan, what is your point of view?

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What exactly do chess players "create"?

I'm struggling with that idea and would be interested to hear your reasoning.
Chess between humans is far more than pure calculation. It's a question of feeling too. It's a "fight" between ideas and psychologies.

Here are two examples:

Mikhail Tal's Most Insane Queen Sacrifice
Tal, who was a genius, didn't calculate all the combinations. That's impossible.
It was a feeling about position.

Kasparov - Ahurissant
Kasparov had the feeling it was a critical error.... A feeling.
Just listen to the genius himself (Analysis in English).
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Aah-St Patrick? You mean that bigoted Romano-Briton bully boy enforcer of the Roman church orthodoxy?....as opposed to the more tolerant Celtic version of christianity (at the time)....
I shall have to take your word for it......I am not that old
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Old November 8th, 2018, 01:40 AM   #5133
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I shall have to take your word for it......I am not that old
You'll learn one day sonny boy, you'll learn....
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Old November 8th, 2018, 01:11 PM   #5134
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In my youth 60 years ago turkey was only available during the big Thanksgiving holiday and for Christmas dinner. Then some 20 years later some smart guy in the food industry had the thought "why limit turkey to just a few times a year". It's a common bird and we can grow them in big farms just like we do with chickens. Now in all supermarkets big and small and small grocers in neighborhood's and in deli's you can find pieces of turkey in the meat section and sliced turkey with different spices added and reduced salt for making sandwiches. Turkey is now enjoyed by millions of Americans every day as what is called "standard cuisine".

My question is: Is turkey commonly consumed in the U.K as an everyday food as in America or is it only available certain times of the year?
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My question is: Is turkey commonly consumed in the U.K as an everyday food as in America or is it only available certain times of the year?
Yes, it is -all year round.

Turkey farming is quite a big industry - especially in Norfolk (Max's neck-of-the-woods) where the Bernard Matthews business is based.

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I can remember adverts for turkey for Easter as well as Christmas. It is traditional to order your turkey before Christmas but I am not sure I'd want to pick one out for killing-I am all for knowing where your meat comes from but choosing one for slaughter, no, I don't like that idea. As long as it had a reasonable good life beforehand is all I am interested in. Our turkey is from a kosher butchers anyway so we know it has been prepared properly.
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My question is: Is turkey commonly consumed in the U.K as an everyday food as in America or is it only available certain times of the year?
As with all things 'cultural' it came to the UK.

In my childhood we had a big Turkey for Xmas dinner but not often outside of this.

In my Mum's time, this was during and just after WWII, they had Goose which was the tradition dating back to Victorian times and even before.

As has been said....Turkey Farms became an industrial scale thing and catering turkey ( kind of like a two foot square section log of compressed recovered and boned meat) appeared on school lunch menus and hospital menus on a weekly rotation.

It is a commonplace here now as it is in the US and is a cheap source of protein.......although not so if you consider the impact on the poor factory birds and the environment.

My butcher sources 'free range' birds which are meant to see daylight and fresh air and most customers by a Turkey Crown, no legs.

I haven't had roast Turkey at Xmas at home very often, I enjoy roast Pork and we also do a big free range chicken.

edit: not sure why I keep capitalizing nouns.....maybe I am becoming German?
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My wife likes to buy free range turkeys for Thanksgiving.

We have had both free range and non free range turkeys and I can't taste the difference.

My 2 oldest are going on a school field trip next week to the countryside to about 60 miles northwest of the city to visit a poultry farm that raises turkeys, broiler chickens, fryer chickens and roaster chickens.

I didn't even know there were any poultyy farms near here.

I also didn't know chicken were categorize in different types:

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When we buy fresh chicken at the supermarket, it's usually a whole chicken that's already been cut up into portions and ready to be cooked (2 breasts, 2 drumsticks, 2 thighs, 2 wings with the small drumstick section) or sometimes we buy family size packages of just a specific part like a pack with 2 dozens drumsticks or a pack with 12 thighs or a pack with 4-5 breasts or even a pack containing nothing but wings.
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In my youth 60 years ago turkey was only available during the big Thanksgiving holiday and for Christmas dinner. Then some 20 years later some smart guy in the food industry had the thought "why limit turkey to just a few times a year". It's a common bird and we can grow them in big farms just like we do with chickens. Now in all supermarkets big and small and small grocers in neighborhood's and in deli's you can find pieces of turkey in the meat section and sliced turkey with different spices added and reduced salt for making sandwiches. Turkey is now enjoyed by millions of Americans every day as what is called "standard cuisine".

My question is: Is turkey commonly consumed in the U.K as an everyday food as in America or is it only available certain times of the year?

In my youth, chicken was a special meal....we only had it a few times a year.
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I also didn't know chicken were categorize in different types:

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There is a US comedienne who says that she can't afford healthcare anymore so she buys cheap chicken from WalMart and hopes some of the antibiotics seep into her system.
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