Questions for our British friends - Page 519

**vo1v0d** · November 17th, 2018, 11:16 PM

Clarification: if you attend the right public school with fees around Harvard or Yale, then attend the right college in the right university you will have made the right contacts for the ultimate in croneyism and be able to get a job leeching on the public purse with impugnity (bankers etc) or fucking the public over and getting paid for the priveledge,( politicians like the ex prime minister, most of his cabinet)

**seany65** · November 19th, 2018, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick Danger

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2. What exactly is meant by the phrase "Wednesday week"? Do people say "Tuesday week' or "Thursday week"?

3. What is a bank holiday?

4. If private schools are called "public schools", what are public schools called?

2A) "Wednesday week" usually means a Week next Wednesday, or a week counting from the next Wednesday coming to the Wednesday after that. It's the same for the other days.

3A) "Bank Holidays" were invented by the banking "industry" to give themselves a day off several times a Year, but as everyone needed (and many still need) money to do business, everywhere else closed on those days. Now they are a part of Law. Most workers get to have those as "Free Holidays" every year, on top of normal holiday entitlement, usually about 20-odd days plus bank holidays.

4A) "Private Schools" are funded by the parents paying fees to those schools and are called "Public Schools" because the public (parents) pay for their existance.

"Public Schools" are also funded by the parents paying fees to those schools and are called "Private Schools" because the parents paying their fees are private citizens.

One or other (or both) are "charitable foundations" or "Charities" and thus qualify for something or other. Possibly money from the Government?

I went to a "Comprehensive School" which is attended by students who's parents are members of the public and at the same time private citizens but who don't pay fees to the school other than indirectly through Tax to the national Government who then hand that money to Local Education Authorities/Local Government who then give the money to the schools.

**Grouchy** · November 19th, 2018, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by seany65

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One or other (or both) are "charitable foundations" or "Charities" and thus qualify for something or other. Possibly money from the Government?

One of the biggest advantages of registering as a charity or charitable foundation is the tax breaks such a move brings.. The charity commission sets out certain "rules" by which the organisation should abide and in return they get tax advantages..

These can range from reclaiming VAT to tax (and in some cases rate) free ownership of property with much more in between. It is my understanding that the Church of England is a charity and hence pays little or no rates on its massive amount of property (but I am open to correction on that).

**dbailey** · November 19th, 2018, 02:05 PM

In the UK...going to 'Public School' is the same as private education in the USA in that the parents pay fees...sometimes tens of thousands per year direct to the school. As others have said..the reason we called it public was because it was open to anyone who had enough wonga and it didn't require that your parents were members of a particular selective society, religion, company or guild, these schools are private in nature and are mainly fee paying.

State school or Comprehensive in the UK is the same as public school in the USA in that it is free for the student and funded via taxation.

Everyone in my extended family got free state education and that included college for Mrs db and myself. My nieces and nephews have all had to pay for their college and my Bro' is out about 50,000 GBP for his two children's college degrees.

**Greenman** · November 19th, 2018, 05:36 PM

Public schools used to have the 'Old School Tie' which was a sort of badge of identity and if you mentioned which school you went to it could 'open doors' for you-a bit like The Masons and their weird rituals/handshakes. Mostly applied to Harrovians(Harrow) and Etonians (Eton) schools as they were/are the most prestigious. There is a song by The Jam called Eton Rifles. Paul Weller(lead singer)was inspired to write it based on a march by the unemployed which went past that school and they picked a fight with some Etonians who were rugby players and knew how to handle themselves. I think that was what it was, don't quote me on it, I am using my memory here

**Reclaimedwg** · November 19th, 2018, 06:34 PM

Here's a food question for the British.

I have been watching MasterChef UK for over 10 years now.

We all know the show: a bunch of amateur and also professional chefs get together and make their own dishes and try to win each year.

I noticed one thing about them year after year, season after season:

they like to use 4 ingredients: Rhubarb, Beetroot, Celeriac and Aubergine.

Are these common ingredients in British cuisine?

My entire life of cooking and I have never used Rhubarb and Beetroot and Celeriac.

According to Wiki, Celeriac is a celery root.

Here in the USA this is what we consider a celery:

Code:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celery

Aubergine (which here in the USA is eggplant), I've used it maybe twice.

They even had episodes where someone made Celeriac ice cream or Celeriac pudding (as in the dessert).

**Davemetalhead** · November 19th, 2018, 07:18 PM

Common ingredients? Not really, no - but you have to remember that these shows are about making poncy, fancy food, not the common stuff that most folks will cook at home.

These kind of ingredients have become more common in recent years due to programmes like Masterchef and celebrity chefs like Jamie Oliver, but it's still not really considered day-to-day cooking.

**Reclaimedwg** · November 19th, 2018, 08:13 PM

^^^ Honestly I don't think things like Rhubarbs and Beetroot and Celeriac taste any good.

I never had them but just from the look of them... I would want to say YUCK!

There was one season a couple of years ago, one of the contestant made it almost to the end, and just about every time he made something, it was with Rhubarb and Beetroot.

Seriously!!

How many freaking things can you make with those 2 ingredients?!?

The judges Gregg Wallace and Marcus Wareing and Monica Galetti were just in heaven:

You lifted Beetroom to a new level. You made Rhubarb sing. etc etc

I know the show has been edited before it's broadcast but sometimes I wonder how many times the judges took a forkful of something and made faces in disgust and spit the food out and we don't ever see it.

**Greenman** · November 19th, 2018, 08:23 PM

Rhubarb and Custard(apart from being a successful animated series here) has always been a staple dessert for many harking back to school days as a pudding (was also the name of a chewy sweet in pink and yellow) Beetroot was mostly known for Borscht as a soup-like thing but not that popular here and Celeriac was a new food that was a fad for different things for salads. Aubergine was introduced by trendy chefs much later I doubt anyone knew what it was and it wasn't popular with ordinary people. Trouble is like that stuff QUINOA(keen-noir) no-one knows anything about it until suddenly some celebrity endorses it as as 'super food' thats good for you but bloody expensive.

**haroldeye** · November 19th, 2018, 08:27 PM

Rhubarb is delicious if used properly. In jam (jelly I think you colonial types call it) or in a crumble or just with ice cream.

Beetroot has a flavour all of it's own. Good pickled in vinegar, bit even better mixed with a mild curry powder.

Celeriac is to real British cooking what honesty is to American Revolutionary History. Non existant.

Aubergines used when we are trying to emulate Italian or Greek cooking.

November 19th, 2018, 05:36 PM	#5185
Greenman Live Legend of VEF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Underground lair somewhere in the world Posts: 20,353 Thanks: 30,936 Thanked 383,590 Times in 19,356 Posts	Public schools used to have the 'Old School Tie' which was a sort of badge of identity and if you mentioned which school you went to it could 'open doors' for you-a bit like The Masons and their weird rituals/handshakes. Mostly applied to Harrovians(Harrow) and Etonians (Eton) schools as they were/are the most prestigious. There is a song by The Jam called Eton Rifles. Paul Weller(lead singer)was inspired to write it based on a march by the unemployed which went past that school and they picked a fight with some Etonians who were rugby players and knew how to handle themselves. I think that was what it was, don't quote me on it, I am using my memory here __________________ There was only ONE Greenman, and you accepted no substitutes! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Rest in peace MaxJoker-you will be sorely missed. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 20,000: Milestone reached!

November 19th, 2018, 06:34 PM	#5186
Reclaimedwg Vintage Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,414 Thanks: 7,709 Thanked 26,949 Times in 3,089 Posts	Here's a food question for the British. I have been watching MasterChef UK for over 10 years now. We all know the show: a bunch of amateur and also professional chefs get together and make their own dishes and try to win each year. I noticed one thing about them year after year, season after season: they like to use 4 ingredients: Rhubarb, Beetroot, Celeriac and Aubergine. Are these common ingredients in British cuisine? My entire life of cooking and I have never used Rhubarb and Beetroot and Celeriac. According to Wiki, Celeriac is a celery root. Here in the USA this is what we consider a celery: Code: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celery Aubergine (which here in the USA is eggplant), I've used it maybe twice. They even had episodes where someone made Celeriac ice cream or Celeriac pudding (as in the dessert).

November 19th, 2018, 07:18 PM	#5187
Davemetalhead Vintage Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Near Oxford, UK Posts: 528 Thanks: 3,930 Thanked 5,047 Times in 522 Posts	Common ingredients? Not really, no - but you have to remember that these shows are about making poncy, fancy food, not the common stuff that most folks will cook at home. These kind of ingredients have become more common in recent years due to programmes like Masterchef and celebrity chefs like Jamie Oliver, but it's still not really considered day-to-day cooking. __________________ The resident lurker of the GD&N forum.

November 19th, 2018, 08:23 PM	#5189
Greenman Live Legend of VEF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Underground lair somewhere in the world Posts: 20,353 Thanks: 30,936 Thanked 383,590 Times in 19,356 Posts	Rhubarb and Custard(apart from being a successful animated series here) has always been a staple dessert for many harking back to school days as a pudding (was also the name of a chewy sweet in pink and yellow) Beetroot was mostly known for Borscht as a soup-like thing but not that popular here and Celeriac was a new food that was a fad for different things for salads. Aubergine was introduced by trendy chefs much later I doubt anyone knew what it was and it wasn't popular with ordinary people. Trouble is like that stuff QUINOA(keen-noir) no-one knows anything about it until suddenly some celebrity endorses it as as 'super food' thats good for you but bloody expensive. __________________ There was only ONE Greenman, and you accepted no substitutes! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Rest in peace MaxJoker-you will be sorely missed. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 20,000: Milestone reached!

November 17th, 2018, 11:16 PM	#5181
vo1v0d Hideous By Nature Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: sarf eeeest lunden Posts: 8,341 Thanks: 42,687 Thanked 61,419 Times in 7,552 Posts	Clarification: if you attend the right public school with fees around Harvard or Yale, then attend the right college in the right university you will have made the right contacts for the ultimate in croneyism and be able to get a job leeching on the public purse with impugnity (bankers etc) or fucking the public over and getting paid for the priveledge,( politicians like the ex prime minister, most of his cabinet)

November 19th, 2018, 02:05 PM	#5184
dbailey Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Wharfedale, Yorkshire, UK Posts: 2,298 Thanks: 137,978 Thanked 24,966 Times in 2,218 Posts	In the UK...going to 'Public School' is the same as private education in the USA in that the parents pay fees...sometimes tens of thousands per year direct to the school. As others have said..the reason we called it public was because it was open to anyone who had enough wonga and it didn't require that your parents were members of a particular selective society, religion, company or guild, these schools are private in nature and are mainly fee paying. State school or Comprehensive in the UK is the same as public school in the USA in that it is free for the student and funded via taxation. Everyone in my extended family got free state education and that included college for Mrs db and myself. My nieces and nephews have all had to pay for their college and my Bro' is out about 50,000 GBP for his two children's college degrees.

November 19th, 2018, 08:13 PM	#5188
Reclaimedwg Vintage Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,414 Thanks: 7,709 Thanked 26,949 Times in 3,089 Posts	^^^ Honestly I don't think things like Rhubarbs and Beetroot and Celeriac taste any good. I never had them but just from the look of them... I would want to say YUCK! There was one season a couple of years ago, one of the contestant made it almost to the end, and just about every time he made something, it was with Rhubarb and Beetroot. Seriously!! How many freaking things can you make with those 2 ingredients?!? The judges Gregg Wallace and Marcus Wareing and Monica Galetti were just in heaven: You lifted Beetroom to a new level. You made Rhubarb sing. etc etc I know the show has been edited before it's broadcast but sometimes I wonder how many times the judges took a forkful of something and made faces in disgust and spit the food out and we don't ever see it.

November 19th, 2018, 08:27 PM	#5190
haroldeye Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Halfwitistan Posts: 5,716 Thanks: 113,598 Thanked 59,984 Times in 5,708 Posts	Rhubarb is delicious if used properly. In jam (jelly I think you colonial types call it) or in a crumble or just with ice cream. Beetroot has a flavour all of it's own. Good pickled in vinegar, bit even better mixed with a mild curry powder. Celeriac is to real British cooking what honesty is to American Revolutionary History. Non existant. Aubergines used when we are trying to emulate Italian or Greek cooking.