President Donald Trump's Final Days...

[charliels531]

Originally Posted by deepsepia

Trump seems to have none. There is no hint that he's ever read a book. Not a reference to a work of music. The only painting of note associated with him is a garish cartoon that a fan made, showing him playing poker with other Republican Presidents, who gaze at him admiringly . . . its a singularly repellent work of "art", the sort of thing you used to see for Mao or Stalin.



[I am particularly repulsed by the suggestion of Eisenhower -- a man of real quality who had well documented contempt for men like Trump-- cheerfully rubbing shoulders with him]

The figures in that awful painting who fascinate me are the three off to the right--Harding, Coolidge, and, lurking next to the post, Hoover.

[deepsepia]

Originally Posted by Mal Hombre

As if Lincoln would want to be in the same room let alone the same table..Mind You it's not often that Nixon isn't the most reprehensible guy in the room..

There is one accurate detail-- notice that the two Bushs are the farthest away (recoiling in horror?)

Trump loves this painting, btw . . . he has a copy of it hanging in his personal dining room, outside the Oval Office



https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-...=.57cf0f15b95e

[Mal Hombre]

U.S. Grant is obviously not fit to sit with the two draft dodgers..The whole thing is worthy of North Korea,I imagine Kim Il Jun has something similar outside His dining room.

[ShutUpLutz!]

Originally Posted by deepsepia

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I am with the social democrats in that I don't think we should have to beg others -- no matter how generous they might be-- for things like healthcare. One of the most humiliating signs of America's shabbiness is the handmade signs you'll see in American stores, pleading for money for some family member's medical treatment.

So I appreciate the charity, but at this point, things like healthcare should simply be financed as public utilities-- people once had to subscribe to fire departments, we abandoned that model a century ago. Here's a real letter to a prospective heart transplant patient from (appropriately enough) a clinic in Michigan named for the Devos family (billionaires from Amway, a better scam than Trump's): it suggests a "fundraising effort" . . . just monstrous.

C'mon now, in Amurica it's all about pulling your self up by your bootstraps, being a self made man like say, Mark Zuckerberg, who got Facebook off and running because of 'angel investors' and venture capitalists like peter Thiel...oh wait well there's the president himself who got his real estate empire up and running ALL BY HIMSELF, except for that $40,000,000 his daddy gave him and oh yes that $100,000,000 in tax breaks NYC gave him. The idea of the 'self made man' in the present day is bullshit.

As to those handmade signs in stores for medical treatment, there had been two of them in the pizza joint I go to on Fridays, but they were gone last week, so I asked about them. They were for a little girl who had some lifethreatening thing, and no I'm not trying to downplay it at all and she had died a few days ago.


However, I haven't noticed nearly as many adverts for spaghetti dinners or pancake breakfasts and such to raise money for injured/sick people, I think much of that type of thing has shuffled off to crowdfunding websites like gofundme, which i suppose are good in that they may get your message out to a wider audience, but it's also a lot easier to pull or try to pull off scams like that recent one with the couple and the homeless guy.

Private fire departments still exist here in the states, there was a story a few years ago about a guy who wasn't a member of the private fire place, but the house next door was and when both caught on fire the department came out and extinguished the members house but just watched his burn to the ground.

[ball7]

From CNN's twitter:

The US Customs and Border Protection office in San Diego has closed road and pedestrian bridges in both directions at the San Ysidro port of entry https://cnn.it/2DXvR0L

[scoundrel]

I don't think for a moment that George W Bush would breathe the same air as President Trump except as a matter of duty and a very difficult and unpleasant duty at that. Apart from the bad blood between Mr Trump and the Bush family, I suspect that GW Bush would look down on Mr Trump anyway. Mr Reagan kept some extremely tacky company so I suspect that he would play cards with Mr Trump, but only if Mr Reagan and not Mr Trump supplied the deck of cards, and only if General Eisenhower dealt.

I think Warren Harding should have been in this picture.

[tsunamiSD]

I know this first one probably isn't the latest, but couldn't find a more recent one:

As of September 13th - President Trump has made more than 5,000 false or misleading claims

Various versions of another sort of 'update':

Comparing criminal indictments of those serving in the executive branch of presidential administrations

Scoreboard: Presidential Indictments, Convictions & Prison Sentences

As of Sept 17th - Comparing Presidential Adminstrations by Felony Arrests and Convictions

[scoundrel]

Originally Posted by Mal Hombre

As if Lincoln would want to be in the same room let alone the same table..Mind You it's not often that Nixon isn't the most reprehensible guy in the room..

Paradoxically, Nixon was a rather good president; Mr Trump is mainly something America needs to survive, hoping and praying that his successor will be competent if not a decent human being. I never saw a man before who was unworthy to play cards with Richard M Nixon.

[ShutUpLutz!]

Originally Posted by scoundrel

Paradoxically, Nixon was a rather good president; Mr Trump is mainly something America needs to survive, hoping and praying that his successor will be competent if not a decent human being. I never saw a man before who was unworthy to play cards with Richard M Nixon.

There was the creation of the EPA and some other things, though he had ot be pushed hard to do that. You mentioned Nixon and cards, he was a REALLY great card player, he made nearly $90,000 playing cards while serving in the military during WWII.

[laberbacke]

Originally Posted by scoundrel

Paradoxically, Nixon was a rather good president; Mr Trump is mainly something America needs to survive, hoping and praying that his successor will be competent if not a decent human being. I never saw a man before who was unworthy to play cards with Richard M Nixon.

I wouldn't go so far as to describe Nixon as "a rather good president", he was a "hit and miss" president who would have been ranked among the mediocre presidents, were it not for Watergate and a number of other shenanigans.


His most lasting and terrible legacy isn't even the more well known Watergate, but the Southern Strategy. Without the Southern Strategy, the United States would be much less divided now, and Donald Trump would still be the idiotic reality show presenter from NBC. Without the Southern Strategy, the Republican Party would likely still be a conventional conservative party in the spectrum of established Western democracies, similar to the Tories in the UK or the Christian Democrats in Germany - rather than the cesspool of racists, classists and misogynists it has become.



Nixon merely looks good compared to his Republican successors, because he was the last elected Republican president who didn't live in a fantasy land of make believe and wishful thinking when it came to key issues like environmentalism, health care and fiscal policy.