President Donald Trump's Final Days...

[frank07]

[xenontrioxide]

Cold War 2 is over!
America surrenders in Helsinki.

[Mal Hombre]

If Mr Putin is such a great guy and Russia is no threat to anybody,Why was Mr Trump so insistent that the other NATO members pay more for Their defence ? Defence against whom ? The Iranians aren't likely to invade Europe anytime soon,2,500 years ago maybe..

[xenontrioxide]

That's it. I am now prepared to give ear to any and all outrageous theories about Trump vis-a-vis Putin. What I saw today so beggars belief that I am in utter shock. I all my years on this planet I have never before watched a man sell out his country. You have to look to the chaos of WWII, to Vidkun Quisling, and Pierre Laval to see a man betray his homeland so publicly, and in this case in front of the entire world!

The idea of letting Russian authorities join in the hacking probe is insane. It's like inviting the Mafia to join in the investigation of a gangland murder. (We need no analogies for this, Putin demanded Russian involvement in the British novichok investigation and was, of course, ignored.)

American credibility has vanished. Warnings of international threats supplied by U.S. intelligence services can be dismissed if contradicted by denials from Moscow.

America under Trump has become a puppet state. Russia is a friend, Europe is a "foe", NATO is "obsolete", Canada is now a national security threat but North Korea is not. Moscow has a free hand in the Caucasus, the Balkans, Ukraine because there is now NO credible power to balance. Republican Congressmen spend their country's national holiday in Moscow. America under Trump cannot be trusted, even to defend it's own best interests.

So America, how great is it to be a puppet?

[deepsepia]

Originally Posted by xenontrioxide

So America, how great is it to be a puppet?

It sucks, frankly.

[bubbs999]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9uvmca5WF4

Pull the string and I'll wink at you, I'm your puppet
I'll do funny things if you want me to, I'm your puppet
Mm. I'm yours to have and to hold
Darling, you've got full control of your puppet Pull them little strings and I'll kiss your lips, I'm your puppet
Snap your fingers and I'll turn you some flips, I'm your puppet
Mm, your every wish is my command
All you got to do is wiggle your little hand
I'm your puppet, I'm your puppet I'm just a toy, just a funny boy
That makes you laugh when you're blue
I'll be wonderful, do just what I'm told
I'll do anything for you I'm your puppet, I'm your puppet Just pull them little strings and I'll sing you a song, I'm your puppet
Make me do right or make me do wrong, I'm your puppet.
Mm, treat me good and I'll do anything
I'm just a puppet and you hold my string, I'm your puppet Your walking, talking, kissing, loving puppet
I'm hanging on a string,
I'll do anything, love you 'n' kiss ya

[BustyWomenLovr]

"oh those "Demo...." and libruls are all commies and they hate America"
Well I guess not as much as The Donald does.
Hates America because they wouldn't finance him like his buddy Puty would.
Wonder how long before Spetnatz troops patrol Pennsylvania Avenue?

[deepsepia]

Here's what's weird: Trump's soft touch on Putin isn't hidden. I don't get that. Its not how Putin would advise an agent he was running to behave.

This performance isn't puppetry. Trump _is_ writing his own script here. He's not just a traitor-- he's an enthusiastic one. He's not paling up to Putin because he _has_ to-- its because he's decided that, somehow, Putin is the maestro, and he _wants_ to serve him.

For a man who is otherwise so attached to his alpha-ness, he's weirdly servile with Putin.

[charliels531]

Originally Posted by xenontrioxide

That's it. I am now prepared to give ear to any and all outrageous theories about Trump vis-a-vis Putin. What I saw today so beggars belief that I am in utter shock. I all my years on this planet I have never before watched a man sell out his country. You have to look to the chaos of WWII, to Vidkun Quisling, and Pierre Laval to see a man betray his homeland so publicly, and in this case in front of the entire world!

Let me offer an "outrageous theory" that is making the rounds among retired counter-espionage folks.

For decades Soviet and now Russian intelligence services have tried, with varying degrees of success, to plant "sleepers" in various Western countries. That didn't work well, except in Britain with Kim Philby and his friends.

But in the 1980s the KGB took a different tack. They apparently compiled a list of somewhere between 1,000 and 10,000 Americans whom they considered to have promise to become influential over the next 20 years, influential enough to help the USSR and later Russia. They used their usual selection process: White native-born males with certain problems: Money problems, zipper problems, and ego problems. Some they approached directly, most they approached indirectly, through acquaintances.

That much is known. It is also known that Putin was a rising KGB star at the time.

What is not known is who was on the list. A few folks contacted the FBI after being approached, and a defector or two have confirmed the existence of the program, but they were not knowledgeable about the targets.

An obvious target was, of course, the hereditary rich native-born white male New Yorker with money troubles, zipper troubles, and ego troubles.

For me the tantalizing part is who else might be in the club. In 1984 a long-shot Kentucky lad who had serious money and ego problems was elected to the U.S. Senate. He was introduced to his prospective second wife whose father ran a shipping firm that smuggled cocaine by the deca-kilo and who solved his money problems.

How's that for an "outrageous theory"?

[frank07]

Originally Posted by xenontrioxide

That's it. I am now prepared to give ear to any and all outrageous theories about Trump vis-a-vis Putin. What I saw today so beggars belief that I am in utter shock. I all my years on this planet I have never before watched a man sell out his country. You have to look to the chaos of WWII, to Vidkun Quisling, and Pierre Laval to see a man betray his homeland so publicly, and in this case in front of the entire world!

The idea of letting Russian authorities join in the hacking probe is insane. It's like inviting the Mafia to join in the investigation of a gangland murder. (We need no analogies for this, Putin demanded Russian involvement in the British novichok investigation and was, of course, ignored.)

American credibility has vanished. Warnings of international threats supplied by U.S. intelligence services can be dismissed if contradicted by denials from Moscow.

America under Trump has become a puppet state. Russia is a friend, Europe is a "foe", NATO is "obsolete", Canada is now a national security threat but North Korea is not. Moscow has a free hand in the Caucasus, the Balkans, Ukraine because there is now NO credible power to balance. Republican Congressmen spend their country's national holiday in Moscow. America under Trump cannot be trusted, even to defend it's own best interests.

So America, how great is it to be a puppet?