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truemate · August 1st, 2018, 11:46 AM

are u on win xp ??? if not than forgot defrag thing.. if still feel to do timepass.. than once every 7 months.
Same goes with those so called registry defrag/cleaner

**PAWGLover** · August 1st, 2018, 04:08 PM

I'm using windows 7.

truemate · August 1st, 2018, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicago

I'm using windows 7.

same here.
i never defrag.. the last time i did was 2 days back. yeah after nearly 7 months gap

recluce · August 3rd, 2018, 06:02 PM

Never.

Workstation and laptops all run on SSD, for which defragmentation is completely pointless and only reduces life expectancy of the SSD.

My storage server runs ZFS, for which defragmentation is a completely foreign concept. MacOS does not need it, neither does Linux with its ext3/4 filesystems.

In short: defragmentation is pretty much only needed for FAT and NTFS file systems using spindle drives (HDD). When I had these, I defragmented when the tool recommended doing so after analysis

**rlg118** · August 4th, 2018, 03:33 AM

SSDs should not be defragged - it's pointless - but the TRIM command is certainly handy for ensuring optimal performance.

To find out whether the TRIM command is enabled, enter the following in a command prompt:

fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify

NTFS DisableDeleteNotify = 0 means that the TRIM feature is enabled.
NTFS DisableDeleteNotify = 1 means that it is disabled. To enable, use an elevated command prompt and enter

fsutil behavior set disabledeletenotify 0

bkemadu · August 8th, 2018, 07:20 PM

make sure you are using proper defrag software.

Helenic · August 8th, 2018, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicago

How often do most of us defrag ? I was doing my system every month, but not sure if that's best. Windows system says you should wait until fragmentation is over 10%. Any input would be appreciated as I have been given different advice on this.

If you have an SSD then never, because they don't work the same way,. In that case you will be 'trimming'. As for how frequently, it depends a bit on what you, what kind of files you have and also how slow your cpu and drive are. The slower the drive and CPU, and the less RAM you have, the more effect fragmentation has on performance. So the guidelines are just that - guidelines. try experimenting by defragging at different percentages and seeing if it makes a difference you can notice. I used ot degrag at 2% because with my set-up, it made a difference. Especially if you choose your defrag settings, put large files ta the end of the drive and so on. I also make the swap file a fixed size and put it in the centre of the disk (you may have to fiddle about a bit to achieve that). That way, the system is not constantly re-sizing the swap file, so you gain a little performance. I turn off indexing and I clean up junk before defragging (inclusing system junk like installation files for windows updates - try CCleaner, it is free and quite safe, unlike many, and use the windows tools clean-up tool. With faster machines, fragmentation isprobably not anb issue below something like 5-8%

**Welderman** · August 8th, 2018, 10:22 PM

Defragmenting is personal choice, I can defrag

5 or 6 times a day, if it needs it or not..

But by keeping your files compacted, it can reduce the time taken to defrag after downloading large updates..

**PAWGLover** · October 18th, 2020, 12:51 AM

I'm defragging my laptop now because it started to seem slow opening folders. After a day and a half it says it's on pass 5. Anyone know how many passes it takes on Windows 7 ? It's a 2 terabyte hard drive, about 190 gigs free.

**buttsie** · October 18th, 2020, 02:34 AM

9 or 10 times was what i recall on W7

The issue might be something else

How to Fix Slow Loading Folders in Windows 7
ByAustinLast Updated on July 14, 2019

The mystery started about 6 months after I bought my new machine. My new Windows 7 PC started slowing down when loading folders that had a few hundred downloads in them. At first, I figured it was just a fragmentation HD issue or perhaps my Anti-Virus was going wacky on me. Unfortunately after trying all these basics, I was stumped

2 step solution
https://www.groovypost.com/howto/how...save%20changes.

comment from user

The infuriating green progress bar is now confined to history. Not sure of the actual “science” behind this fix but it has fixed my laptop to a tee.

I've had a similar experience on W8

The thing that started it - changing
- view - sort by / group by - date/size/etc

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PAWGLover Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: SW FLORIDA Posts: 2,697 Thanks: 14,148 Thanked 50,241 Times in 2,826 Posts	I'm defragging my laptop now because it started to seem slow opening folders. After a day and a half it says it's on pass 5. Anyone know how many passes it takes on Windows 7 ? It's a 2 terabyte hard drive, about 190 gigs free. __________________ Free The Nipple ! I am sorry but I no longer have time to re-up dead links.

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recluce Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 84 Thanks: 1,347 Thanked 572 Times in 80 Posts	Never. Workstation and laptops all run on SSD, for which defragmentation is completely pointless and only reduces life expectancy of the SSD. My storage server runs ZFS, for which defragmentation is a completely foreign concept. MacOS does not need it, neither does Linux with its ext3/4 filesystems. In short: defragmentation is pretty much only needed for FAT and NTFS file systems using spindle drives (HDD). When I had these, I defragmented when the tool recommended doing so after analysis

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buttsie Porn Archeologist Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: earth Posts: 12,714 Thanks: 92,252 Thanked 241,298 Times in 12,746 Posts	9 or 10 times was what i recall on W7 The issue might be something else How to Fix Slow Loading Folders in Windows 7 ByAustinLast Updated on July 14, 2019 The mystery started about 6 months after I bought my new machine. My new Windows 7 PC started slowing down when loading folders that had a few hundred downloads in them. At first, I figured it was just a fragmentation HD issue or perhaps my Anti-Virus was going wacky on me. Unfortunately after trying all these basics, I was stumped 2 step solution https://www.groovypost.com/howto/how...save%20changes. comment from user The infuriating green progress bar is now confined to history. Not sure of the actual “science” behind this fix but it has fixed my laptop to a tee. I've had a similar experience on W8 The thing that started it - changing - view - sort by / group by - date/size/etc