Things Noticeable this week - Page 3480

**Reclaimedwg** · August 22nd, 2018, 06:47 PM

Again, only in America.

People take the words Free Country too literally here.

Try entering a Central America or South America country illegally.

Then come back and tell me what they did to you.

They are not as nice as we are over here when we catch someone entering our country illegally.

They won't put you in a former Walmart building converted to a shelter and subsidized by the Federal government to give you 3 hot meals a day, air conditioning, free medical care, running water, hot showers, English lessons.

Try over staying your welcome going on vacation in Switzerland.

When you enter Switzerland through customs, they want to know how long are you planning to visit and what day are you leaving and they make sure you have a flight out already reserved.

They will come to your hotel and make sure you are on your flight out on the day you are scheduled to leave.

Even European countries are turning away folks that came across the mediterranean on boats fro Morocco or Syria but folks over there do not cry racism and discimination.

Many European countries have Muslim ban and in countries like Germany, they even have areas in cities that are segregated for Muslims only, and folks are perfectly fine with it.

At the borders of France and Italy, they have Italian military making sure illegal aliens from North Africa are not trying to enter their country.

Only in America that people in other countries think because we are supposedly the wealthiest greatest nation in the world, we OWE them and we are supposed to let them come in illegally and then give them a green card, a citizenship, and at same time give them free housing and medical care and food stamps.

Then they don't want to learn English.

I was in Real Estate and Apartment management.

Do you know how many times Hispanics have walked into my office and first thing they ask is do you speak Spanish. Then if you say no, some get upset with you and think you are a dumb ass for not being able to speak Spanish and storm out of your office.

You see on TV when they portray some of the illegal aliens that have been here for 10 years, 20 years, crying about now with the end of DACA, they may get arrested and deported but during those years they had kids here, their kids by law are American Citizens.

The reporter still need a translator to talk to them because in the 10 to 20 years they have been here, they didn't bother to learn to speak English. They still can only speak Spanish.

All that stuff that the media want you to believe saying these illegal aliens are here and paying taxes like everyone else is BULLSHIT.

To pay taxes you need a SOCIAL SECURITY # issued by the United States Social Security Administration. Only way to get that is if you have a valid green card or work card or permanent residency card. Only way to get those is for you to enter this country legally and go through the legal procedure to get one of those cards or immigration status.

Unless those illegal aliens who are paying taxes were able to get a fake green card or work card or permanent residency card which led to them getting a fake social security card, they only taxes they are paying is the sales tax at the retail stores.

Plus think about it for a second from a logic point of view, if you are in this country illegally and you don't have to pay taxes, why would you want to go through all that trouble of getting all those fake documents just so you can pay taxes?

You won't. Not paying taxes means more $ in your pocket from those jobs you get where they are paying you under the table with no social security and federal income tax deducted.

Just the media trying to make you sympathize with their plight.

Oh they pay taxes like every one else: let them stay here.

They don't pay taxes except for sales tax!

Total liberal media bullshit!

This fucking illegal alien that murdered Mollie Tibbets, there is no death penalty in Iowa, so life in prison is too good for him.

Every day he is allowed to stay alive is one day Mollie didn't get to live.

I bet the Mexican government may try to get him out of the country.

It's like that illegal alien that shot Houston Police Officer Guy P. Gaddis 3 times in 1994 and he was given the death penalty.

The Mexican government using the Mexican consulate in Houston tried to get him extradicted back to Mexico so he wouldn't serve a day of prison time on death row.

Bullshit!

It didn't work and that cop killer was finally executed in 2014 by the great State of Texas!

He still got to live 20 years longer than Officer Guy P. Gaddis, whose wife was pregnant at the time with their first child.

This piece of shit wetback wanted to come to America?

Welcome to American prison.

I hope first they rape him and then they beat him to death in prison.

One of the inmates in the prison population will get him once words get around who he is.

Poetic justice.

Bet when he is getting raped and beaten to death, he would had wished he stayed in fucking Mexico.

Now if any of you want to say I am being too harsh with my comments, let me remind you again!!

You could be Mollie Tibbets or Kathryn Steinle:

your wife, girlfriend, sister, mother, daughter, grandmother, brother, father, cousin, niece, nephew, etc etc could be Mollie Tibbets or Kathryn Steinle.

What happened to them, both murdered by illegal aliens, could had happened to you or to anyone you know and love.

**charliels531** · August 22nd, 2018, 07:15 PM

Wildtig2013 shares Trump's goals:

1) Turn the U.S into a banana republic;

2) Display your ignorance because it's cute*;

3) Public executions are great family entertainment;

4) Torture is the mark of a high-class society;

5) If one person of your race/nationality/religion has ever committed a crime, you personally are guilty of that crime.

*--"They pay no taxes" is what people who are really ignorant, or who have never worked, say. So which is it? For our European friends, taxes are taken directly from paychecks in the U.S., as is done in most countries.

**Reclaimedwg** · August 22nd, 2018, 07:31 PM

Any work illegal aliens have done is paid in cash.

There is no income tax and social security tax deducted from it.

How can an illegal alien with no social security # pay federal income taxes?

**SanteeFats** · August 22nd, 2018, 08:21 PM

Nothing wrong so far guys but please let it stay that way in your posts. I sense tempers are rising so please don't post words you will regret or the mods will for that matter.

**bowlinggreen** · August 23rd, 2018, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildtig2013

Any work illegal aliens have done is paid in cash.

There is no income tax and social security tax deducted from it.

How can an illegal alien with no social security # pay federal income taxes?

If they have got fake documents using someone else's Social Security number, they can and do get "legit" jobs and pay the taxes.

Of course, they will never see that money again since they cannot and will not ever collect SS benefits but that's a small price to pay for a real job that probably pays better net than what they were getting before.

I have actually heard pro-immigration people use that as an argument for allowing illegals, that they are dumping "free money" into our retirement programs paying their taxes on legitimate jobs with illegitimate documents. I am not sure that offsets some of the other stuff they get up to as "guests" in our country, however.

**otokonomidori** · August 23rd, 2018, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanteeFats

Nothing wrong so far guys .... I sense tempers are rising so please don't post words you will regret....

Spoilsport

**Greenman** · August 23rd, 2018, 02:23 AM

This really not what I set this thread up for and lately its been going well off piste so can we please get back on track and keep the political stuff down a bit-thanks and play nicely fellas.

**Wendigo** · August 23rd, 2018, 05:35 AM

Here you go then your ladyship, here's some good news

Chinese tourists flock to North Yorkshire chippy

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-45273575

**haroldeye** · August 23rd, 2018, 06:10 AM

Did anyone see C4 evening news last night. Matt Frei the European editor interviewed Alan Dershowitz Professor of Law at Harvard about Trump. Ignoring the politics of it all, the Professor made Frei look like an idiot and put the smug little git truly in his place.

https://www.channel4.com/news/alan-d...d-with-a-crime

**haroldeye** · August 23rd, 2018, 08:35 AM

Re my post 35918. C4News actually censored the clip of Frei and Dershowitz. I should have checked before posting it but I assumed that as C4 News tries to be honest and be a beacon of integrity they wouldn't stoop to such low behaviour.

The actual interview started with Frei introducing the Prof as an advisor to Trump. Dershowitz opened up by putting Frei right. "I am not an advisor to Trump, I am a Democrat and I voted for Hilary Clinton. I am not here to talk about my politics but about Constitutional Law as regards Trump." Frei, used to bullying third rate British politicians did not take the hint and carried on as ever.

The interview ended with Frei making some fatuous remarks about how poor American law is because the POTUS cannot be prosecuted whilst in Office. Dershowitz then gave Frei both barrels about how it was impolite and just not on to critize the American legal and political system when the British allow an out and out hater of Jews, a prejudiced and confirmed anti semite, to be leader of the opposition.

So C4 censors the bits that show it for what it is.

August 22nd, 2018, 06:47 PM	#34791
Reclaimedwg Vintage Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,414 Thanks: 7,709 Thanked 26,946 Times in 3,089 Posts	Again, only in America. People take the words Free Country too literally here. Try entering a Central America or South America country illegally. Then come back and tell me what they did to you. They are not as nice as we are over here when we catch someone entering our country illegally. They won't put you in a former Walmart building converted to a shelter and subsidized by the Federal government to give you 3 hot meals a day, air conditioning, free medical care, running water, hot showers, English lessons. Try over staying your welcome going on vacation in Switzerland. When you enter Switzerland through customs, they want to know how long are you planning to visit and what day are you leaving and they make sure you have a flight out already reserved. They will come to your hotel and make sure you are on your flight out on the day you are scheduled to leave. Even European countries are turning away folks that came across the mediterranean on boats fro Morocco or Syria but folks over there do not cry racism and discimination. Many European countries have Muslim ban and in countries like Germany, they even have areas in cities that are segregated for Muslims only, and folks are perfectly fine with it. At the borders of France and Italy, they have Italian military making sure illegal aliens from North Africa are not trying to enter their country. Only in America that people in other countries think because we are supposedly the wealthiest greatest nation in the world, we OWE them and we are supposed to let them come in illegally and then give them a green card, a citizenship, and at same time give them free housing and medical care and food stamps. Then they don't want to learn English. I was in Real Estate and Apartment management. Do you know how many times Hispanics have walked into my office and first thing they ask is do you speak Spanish. Then if you say no, some get upset with you and think you are a dumb ass for not being able to speak Spanish and storm out of your office. You see on TV when they portray some of the illegal aliens that have been here for 10 years, 20 years, crying about now with the end of DACA, they may get arrested and deported but during those years they had kids here, their kids by law are American Citizens. The reporter still need a translator to talk to them because in the 10 to 20 years they have been here, they didn't bother to learn to speak English. They still can only speak Spanish. All that stuff that the media want you to believe saying these illegal aliens are here and paying taxes like everyone else is BULLSHIT. To pay taxes you need a SOCIAL SECURITY # issued by the United States Social Security Administration. Only way to get that is if you have a valid green card or work card or permanent residency card. Only way to get those is for you to enter this country legally and go through the legal procedure to get one of those cards or immigration status. Unless those illegal aliens who are paying taxes were able to get a fake green card or work card or permanent residency card which led to them getting a fake social security card, they only taxes they are paying is the sales tax at the retail stores. Plus think about it for a second from a logic point of view, if you are in this country illegally and you don't have to pay taxes, why would you want to go through all that trouble of getting all those fake documents just so you can pay taxes? You won't. Not paying taxes means more $ in your pocket from those jobs you get where they are paying you under the table with no social security and federal income tax deducted. Just the media trying to make you sympathize with their plight. Oh they pay taxes like every one else: let them stay here. They don't pay taxes except for sales tax! Total liberal media bullshit! This fucking illegal alien that murdered Mollie Tibbets, there is no death penalty in Iowa, so life in prison is too good for him. Every day he is allowed to stay alive is one day Mollie didn't get to live. I bet the Mexican government may try to get him out of the country. It's like that illegal alien that shot Houston Police Officer Guy P. Gaddis 3 times in 1994 and he was given the death penalty. The Mexican government using the Mexican consulate in Houston tried to get him extradicted back to Mexico so he wouldn't serve a day of prison time on death row. Bullshit! It didn't work and that cop killer was finally executed in 2014 by the great State of Texas! He still got to live 20 years longer than Officer Guy P. Gaddis, whose wife was pregnant at the time with their first child. This piece of shit wetback wanted to come to America? Welcome to American prison. I hope first they rape him and then they beat him to death in prison. One of the inmates in the prison population will get him once words get around who he is. Poetic justice. Bet when he is getting raped and beaten to death, he would had wished he stayed in fucking Mexico. Now if any of you want to say I am being too harsh with my comments, let me remind you again!! You could be Mollie Tibbets or Kathryn Steinle: your wife, girlfriend, sister, mother, daughter, grandmother, brother, father, cousin, niece, nephew, etc etc could be Mollie Tibbets or Kathryn Steinle. What happened to them, both murdered by illegal aliens, could had happened to you or to anyone you know and love. Last edited by Reclaimedwg; August 22nd, 2018 at 06:54 PM..

August 23rd, 2018, 02:23 AM	#34797
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August 23rd, 2018, 05:35 AM	#34798
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August 22nd, 2018, 07:15 PM	#34792
charliels531 Vintage Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 4,909 Thanks: 42,425 Thanked 62,691 Times in 4,879 Posts	Wildtig2013 shares Trump's goals: 1) Turn the U.S into a banana republic; 2) Display your ignorance because it's cute; 3) Public executions are great family entertainment; 4) Torture is the mark of a high-class society; 5) If one person of your race/nationality/religion has ever committed a crime, you personally are guilty of that crime. --"They pay no taxes" is what people who are really ignorant, or who have never worked, say. So which is it? For our European friends, taxes are taken directly from paychecks in the U.S., as is done in most countries.

August 22nd, 2018, 07:31 PM	#34793
Reclaimedwg Vintage Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,414 Thanks: 7,709 Thanked 26,946 Times in 3,089 Posts	Any work illegal aliens have done is paid in cash. There is no income tax and social security tax deducted from it. How can an illegal alien with no social security # pay federal income taxes?

August 22nd, 2018, 08:21 PM	#34794
SanteeFats Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Santee, Ca Posts: 60,833 Thanks: 281,852 Thanked 813,938 Times in 60,879 Posts	Nothing wrong so far guys but please let it stay that way in your posts. I sense tempers are rising so please don't post words you will regret or the mods will for that matter.

August 23rd, 2018, 06:10 AM	#34799
haroldeye Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Halfwitistan Posts: 5,715 Thanks: 113,505 Thanked 59,965 Times in 5,707 Posts	Did anyone see C4 evening news last night. Matt Frei the European editor interviewed Alan Dershowitz Professor of Law at Harvard about Trump. Ignoring the politics of it all, the Professor made Frei look like an idiot and put the smug little git truly in his place. https://www.channel4.com/news/alan-d...d-with-a-crime

August 23rd, 2018, 08:35 AM	#34800
haroldeye Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Halfwitistan Posts: 5,715 Thanks: 113,505 Thanked 59,965 Times in 5,707 Posts	Re my post 35918. C4News actually censored the clip of Frei and Dershowitz. I should have checked before posting it but I assumed that as C4 News tries to be honest and be a beacon of integrity they wouldn't stoop to such low behaviour. The actual interview started with Frei introducing the Prof as an advisor to Trump. Dershowitz opened up by putting Frei right. "I am not an advisor to Trump, I am a Democrat and I voted for Hilary Clinton. I am not here to talk about my politics but about Constitutional Law as regards Trump." Frei, used to bullying third rate British politicians did not take the hint and carried on as ever. The interview ended with Frei making some fatuous remarks about how poor American law is because the POTUS cannot be prosecuted whilst in Office. Dershowitz then gave Frei both barrels about how it was impolite and just not on to critize the American legal and political system when the British allow an out and out hater of Jews, a prejudiced and confirmed anti semite, to be leader of the opposition. So C4 censors the bits that show it for what it is.