MPs expenses - Page 3

**dbailey** · October 17th, 2009, 10:02 AM

Moat cleaning?

Duck House? £6000 !!!!

Words fail me.

I would like only members cleared of no wrong doing to be allowed to stand for re election.

I would like a hostel to be built in London, possible by converting a high rise block of flats with 2 or 3 bed flats that is to house all MPs.

Second home allowance should then be abolished.

I am disheartened at the highest level of how our elected representatives have show their true colours and they are greed, lies, corruption.

They shall not get my vote ever again until I get an apology and a guarantee that this will not reoccur.

I am disgusted.

**1952224** · October 17th, 2009, 10:58 AM

why hasn,t one of them stood up in the house and condemned any of these so called honourable members for this abuse.in plain and simple terms they are guilty of fraud and theft in my mind and it seems the lords is no better

MaxJoker · October 17th, 2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by fleetwood77

" Hmmm a classic catch twenty two situation ,and the foundation upon which our slowly sinking island community was based"

I just thought you might shed more light on what you considered to be the the foundation of our "island community" - looks like my hopes have been dashed again! Not to worry...

Well normally i love dashing hopes almost as much as i enjoy dashing dreams and dashing to the toilet , but for you and now that i myself hath sleepen the sleep of the just and rightly beloved

sure . Because i know you`re only asking due to a deep seated thirst for knowledge

Nah, only writing more due to having more to say for myself. Well we should use what dwindling personal expression we have left , right , left, right , present arms

The catch 22 is that the majority of people in this country (As this countries population are the only ones to which i have decent enough experience of to comment) like to talk a good fight , but won`t actually fight one. They never have. Sure we had a smattering of martas marching on rare occasions throughout our history , but no uprisings no attempt to take on the virtues of self determination.We just don`t do it , alright i do and maybe you and hell maybe whoever else reading does . Only the vast massive swaying rest don`t. Certainly not if they have to put their stubby neck on the line to do so. Although in the main they don`t mind joining a thronging mass if that mass is large enough to protect them as an individual. So that`s the 22 , this population would erupt into rebellion alright , but only if everyone else was doing it. In other words , there would have to be a revolution to create one. How`d we manage that ?. Well i suppose we could disrupt the signal for Eastenders , the yak yak slackers would certainly begin complaining then i bet

Oh and the sinking bit is because we`re an island race , and in spite of the relaxingly massaged official figures this raft is becoming dangerously overfilled. Not talking about particular races as i`m not prejudiced in that respect , nope i dislike them all in fact almost as much as i dislike my own. Also not trying to hijack the thread to drive it down a bad attitude alley. Just stating what we rationals know. An island does not infinite space have , especially when it`s boundaries are left unchecked to coastal erosion. Still hardly surprising , since we`ve been subject to cultural erosion for decades

Now enough of this stomach acid inducing thread ,and onto more cheery pastures

**1952224** · October 17th, 2009, 11:28 AM

talk a good fight but won,t fight one.2 world wars disprove that.

MaxJoker · October 17th, 2009, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 1952224

talk a good fight but won,t fight one.2 world wars disprove that.

Was that a revolutionary uprising and does the above in anyway link to a form of protest in the way i was discussing ?.

Way to take a sentence out of context ,member . You don`t happen to work for The Sun by chance ?

Sebastian Weetabix · October 17th, 2009, 12:16 PM

Girls, please behave. Handbags at 10 paces . . . .

If you want to pick a fight pick one with the witless cretins at that Halitosis Hall we call a "Parliament" who, despite their "party allegiances" all piss in the same pot when it comes to ripping of the hapless taxpayer.

Don't let them "divide-and-rule".

doc sunggles · October 17th, 2009, 12:22 PM

with regard to the expenses claims . what where you expecting them to do ? be honest you wernt expecting to take advantage of every little loop hole they could find and squeeze it to see how much they could get through it are you ? get a grip there in it for themselves and only themselves . if you think things are over and dome with your very much wrong in my view , if we stand by and let then this will all be brushed under the carpet we wont care a jot as long as eastenders is on our massive tellys and petrol is under £1.5 a liter . perhaps we should look at all public servant expenses including those in the bbc ( its our tax payers money that pays for there jollys ) then and my personal grip how about footballers a soldier lays his life on the line for next to nothing and a f$%^% footballers claimer hundreds of thousands pounds a week to kick a f%&^$ ball about !!!!

windymiller · October 17th, 2009, 12:24 PM

Most of these MPs were greedily dipping their hands into the public coffers because the system that was in place allowed them to do so. It's human nature, a great many of us 'taxpayers' would have done exactly the same if we were in a position where we could get away with it. But some of them, and I'm referring to the ones who were claiming for the upkeep of houses they never lived in and especially the ones who were claiming for mortgages that didn't exist, were committing fraud. A criminal act. But mark my words, not one of them will ever have to stand up in a court of law and answer for it. Remember 'cash for honours'? The investigating officers thought they had a strong case but orders came down from on high saying there would be no prosecution. And who are their bosses? Ultimately, the politicians. The very people who should have ended up in the dock.

If you're an angry taxpayer, then your best option is probably to stand for election to parliament and grab your share of the loot when you get there. The rest of us will be powerless to do anything about it.

MaxJoker · October 17th, 2009, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sebastian Weetabix

Girls, please behave. Handbags at 10 paces . . . .

If you want to pick a fight pick one with the witless cretins at that Halitosis Hall we call a "Parliament" who, despite their "party allegiances" all piss in the same pot when it comes to ripping of the hapless taxpayer.

Don't let them "divide-and-rule".

Hah divide and rule , they came up with the term themselves to divide us even more and so make ruling us a piece of piss.

Also nobodies picking anything a fight or otherwise , just it`s very easy to dismiss somebodies ideas by taking them out of context and smothering them with the glaringly obvious. It`s what the powers that be do all the time , helps confuse the issue and distract from a persons point of view. That`s all.

Oh and i pick fights with the contents of Parliament regularly , gee`s no wonder i`m so stressed !

**Oswald** · October 17th, 2009, 01:54 PM

This recent exposure of corruption amongst elected public officials has given credence to the long standing notion that all parliamentarians, of all political persuasions, are devoid of any morality, probity and honour.

October 17th, 2009, 10:02 AM	#21
dbailey Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Wharfedale, Yorkshire, UK Posts: 2,298 Thanks: 137,964 Thanked 24,966 Times in 2,218 Posts	Moat cleaning? Duck House? £6000 !!!! Words fail me. I would like only members cleared of no wrong doing to be allowed to stand for re election. I would like a hostel to be built in London, possible by converting a high rise block of flats with 2 or 3 bed flats that is to house all MPs. Second home allowance should then be abolished. I am disheartened at the highest level of how our elected representatives have show their true colours and they are greed, lies, corruption. They shall not get my vote ever again until I get an apology and a guarantee that this will not reoccur. I am disgusted.

October 17th, 2009, 10:58 AM	#22
1952224 Vintage Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: hartlepool u.k. Posts: 804 Thanks: 5,356 Thanked 11,334 Times in 794 Posts	why hasn,t one of them stood up in the house and condemned any of these so called honourable members for this abuse.in plain and simple terms they are guilty of fraud and theft in my mind and it seems the lords is no better

October 17th, 2009, 11:28 AM	#24
1952224 Vintage Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: hartlepool u.k. Posts: 804 Thanks: 5,356 Thanked 11,334 Times in 794 Posts	talk a good fight but won,t fight one.2 world wars disprove that.

October 17th, 2009, 12:16 PM	#26
Sebastian Weetabix Blocked! Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 77 Thanks: 673 Thanked 211 Times in 53 Posts	Girls, please behave. Handbags at 10 paces . . . . If you want to pick a fight pick one with the witless cretins at that Halitosis Hall we call a "Parliament" who, despite their "party allegiances" all piss in the same pot when it comes to ripping of the hapless taxpayer. Don't let them "divide-and-rule".

October 17th, 2009, 12:22 PM	#27
doc sunggles Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 75 Thanks: 548 Thanked 493 Times in 72 Posts	with regard to the expenses claims . what where you expecting them to do ? be honest you wernt expecting to take advantage of every little loop hole they could find and squeeze it to see how much they could get through it are you ? get a grip there in it for themselves and only themselves . if you think things are over and dome with your very much wrong in my view , if we stand by and let then this will all be brushed under the carpet we wont care a jot as long as eastenders is on our massive tellys and petrol is under £1.5 a liter . perhaps we should look at all public servant expenses including those in the bbc ( its our tax payers money that pays for there jollys ) then and my personal grip how about footballers a soldier lays his life on the line for next to nothing and a f$%^% footballers claimer hundreds of thousands pounds a week to kick a f%&^$ ball about !!!!

October 17th, 2009, 12:24 PM	#28
windymiller Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 298 Thanks: 1,457 Thanked 2,842 Times in 294 Posts	Most of these MPs were greedily dipping their hands into the public coffers because the system that was in place allowed them to do so. It's human nature, a great many of us 'taxpayers' would have done exactly the same if we were in a position where we could get away with it. But some of them, and I'm referring to the ones who were claiming for the upkeep of houses they never lived in and especially the ones who were claiming for mortgages that didn't exist, were committing fraud. A criminal act. But mark my words, not one of them will ever have to stand up in a court of law and answer for it. Remember 'cash for honours'? The investigating officers thought they had a strong case but orders came down from on high saying there would be no prosecution. And who are their bosses? Ultimately, the politicians. The very people who should have ended up in the dock. If you're an angry taxpayer, then your best option is probably to stand for election to parliament and grab your share of the loot when you get there. The rest of us will be powerless to do anything about it.

October 17th, 2009, 01:54 PM	#30
Oswald Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 13,115 Thanks: 51,076 Thanked 282,511 Times in 13,805 Posts	This recent exposure of corruption amongst elected public officials has given credence to the long standing notion that all parliamentarians, of all political persuasions, are devoid of any morality, probity and honour.