Vegan Diet V Carnivore Diet

[bp666]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

Hi. I spent 30 seconds on internet.
I can help you about Amazon rain forest.



google translate



The last time I was at Mac Donald in Switzerland, (about 10 years ago) they sold Brasilian meat in their hamburgers.

In the past in Europe forests have been destroyed more because to feed cattle than directly people through vegetarian protein.

Though I didn't ask for help on this. I was questioning rosestone's source for his statement that "45% of all land on earth is given over to animal agriculture".

If you want to help answer my question, then focus your answer on the actual question I asked.

I did my own googling and came up with a number of 29.6% and provided my source.

I'm interested where the 45% came from.

[Mal Hombre]

Originally Posted by vo1v0d

Time to come clean, My tastebuds are so fucked................last year I had these two exchanges
me: that turkey was chewy....answer: it was pork
me: Couldn;t get my teeth through that lamb......answer: it was beef
but back to XY and original question. If there was vegan alternative able to replicate taste and texture as well as appearance? I would be deciding by cost .

Maybe it's not your tastebuds,Maybe it's Your teeth,Perhaps You need new,undetectable ones..

[bp666]

Originally Posted by rosestone

Hi bp666,

Okay - would you like me to try and find the source? I don't generally cite sources for this type of thing, and I can't remember where I got the figure from - I might have read it or it might have been in a documentary (I seem to recall mention that it's 45% of the total, including mountains, desert etc). I can try and find it if you want, but don't hold your breath, I have a lot of other things to do!

Yes, I would like you to try, mostly because I thought you might recall where it came from. If you don't have time or can't find it, that will be just fine too.

EDIT: Maybe cowspiracy? http://www.cowspiracy.com/facts/ though it appears that some of their facts contradict other of their facts.

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

Einstein had problem of ethics in eating meat. You

Like I said, so did Hitler if you want to be smartarse

Originally Posted by xyzde69

You don't.
Nothing else.

And I have no problem eating meat whatsoever, you make it sound like I'm evil and singling me out, only problem I really have is with your attitude and general bullshit you post on here talking to members like your an educated intellectual and we're dopes across several threads, here's some advise, get a life and stop wasting your own, you'd be so much happier ....... not that I care or give a damn

Your post above mentioning Einstein again but not Hitler who had the same value with eating meat says it all to me, pure Goddamn hypocrite with a capital H.

[rosestone]

Originally Posted by bp666

Yes, I would like you to try, mostly because I thought you might recall where it came from. If you don't have time or can't find it, that will be just fine too.

EDIT: Maybe cowspiracy? http://www.cowspiracy.com/facts/ though it appears that some of their facts contradict other of their facts.

It definitely could have been, I have seen Cowspiracy, and I have read a little about the cowtroversy surrounding it.

This is another study about global livestock distribution if it's helpful.

[Roubignol]

Originally Posted by Estreeter

Like I said, so did Hitler if you want to be smartarse



And I have no problem eating meat whatsoever, you make it sound like I'm evil and singling me out, only problem I really have is with your attitude and general bullshit you post on here talking to members like your an educated intellectual and we're dopes across several threads, here's some advise, get a life and stop wasting your own, you'd be so much happier ....... not that I care or give a damn

Get your life too. You are here day and night spreading your concepts too.
(anti-homo, anti-vegan, anti-left, etc...)
In fact you even created topics on this, sooner than myself, even if I'm an older member than yourself.

If you have fun to debate, accept contradiction or leave.
You want to have the last word. I do not particularly want that, but when someone reply to me and I do not agree, I reply to him.

Originally Posted by Estreeter

Your post above mentioning Einstein again but not Hitler who had the same value with eating meat says it all to me, pure Goddamn hypocrite with a capital H.

You answered to Rosestone: "weaker minded". When we translate these words in French that means "faible d'esprit". "Faible d'esprit" means in French "less intelligent".
I told you that your assertion was wrong. I mentionned geniuses who were/are vegetarians or vegans.
You replied... Hitler.

Why did you mention Hitler when speaking about intelligence ?

It was not the line that you started.

[Roubignol]

Originally Posted by rosestone

It definitely could have been, I have seen Cowspiracy, and I have read a little about the cowtroversy surrounding it.

This is another study about global livestock distribution if it's helpful.

Between last September - November a study published by Oxford and Zürich universities explained it was better to eat vegetable protein and less harmful for the environment, but I don't find it anymore.

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

If you have fun to debate, accept contradiction or leave.

I left a note among mods and told them I don't care of the outcome of my dealings and replies with you, you can confirm it with any mod in ay section should you wish, I don't care if I get warned, demoted or banned, but...

How dare you suggest I leave Honestly, I've been modding 9 plus years here, never have I come across a member as bad as you with hypocrisy, rudeness, talking down to members and the one I will never forget the open insult you made about my murdered cousin ....... and now you suggest I leave How fucking rude

[Roubignol]

Originally Posted by Estreeter

I will never forget the open insult you made about my murdered cousin ....... and now you suggest I leave How fucking rude

Rohhh your cousin you never met... again.

You mentionned yourself that you had no proof that the cousin (you never knew), was murdered.
You use this tragedy to justify your propaganda.
I explained that my grandfather was killed by Nazis in 1940. I never used it to make any propaganda.

I really dislike how you try to manipulate a philosophy, a concept, that surely was manipulated by horrible leaders, with facts that had nothing to do with what I wanted to discuss.

You don't know why your cousin disappeared. Maybe he took a gun and policemen killed him, maybe this, maybe that....
Don't use, a cousin you never met, to justify your hate. IMO that's indecent.

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

IMO that's indecent.

If only you knew how angry I am right now
Edit

I got that angry earlier I couldn't come to the right words ..... But that members is the type of person I deal with in his posting,

He almost got his facts right, but fancy that, continues an insult, calls me indecent and here he is defending system that had a family member murdered, he makes it out like I didn't know him, he's right, but what he don't know is I saw the effects on the rest of my family, yet he calls me indecent. Here we have a member who displays no room whatsoever for any compromise between 2 ideals, none at all .... yet I'm indecent.

Here we have a member who claims I manipulate philosophy ??? Almost right, I ridicule a failed system, a system he blames everything on, even meat eating is the fault of capitalism.

A member who thinks it's good to let 11 year olds vote ?? makes sense to me, why not let them fuck also, they're smart enough if you explain it to them

I don't care if I seem to be insulting him, really I don't