Porn restrictions: List of the sex acts the UK Government is set to ban

[snowy25]

What seems unclear at the moment is what punishment will there be for those found to be viewing the banned content. I don't see anywhere that says what happens if people are caught with banned content on their computer. Will it be a sexual offence for example to watch the banned content resulting in people being jailed?

[cginok]

Originally Posted by penfold007

The legislation isn't final, but on a technical level all that can be asked for is for the ISP not to pass traffic to the sites mentioned. If they don't pass the traffic, their job is done (and this is more likely to be implemented at network level by BT wholesale and VM anyway). That will not defeat anyone using a VPN though, because as far as the ISP can see, all you are doing is sending a load of encrypted traffic to the VPN provider, they have no idea where the connection goes once it exits the VPN.

Basically it's a stupid law that will be easily circumvented and will achieve nothing except to let the politicians say to sections of the media and sections of the electorate that are concerned about this that they have done something about porn on the internet.

I don't know how things work in the UK. But here in the US, if I saw something like this proposed as a law, and getting significant support amongst other legislators, I would look at who was giving money to their campaigns. Maybe someone in the VPN business, or maybe even the ISPs, are behind this. Either trying to drum up business on the part of VPNs, or trying to limit bandwidth usage by the ISPs.

[Meini Again]

Sorry, but I'm doing an "I'm Alright-Jack" on this proposed legislation.

As long as VEF and Vee survive, I'm alright jack.

The stuff that is targeted is fine by me, but place it in a credit-card ghetto, to let the true pervs have access and the 'watchers' to decide what is and what isn't legal / allowed / banned etc.
The resultant court cases will be led, I suppose, by this decades Gary Glitter and Jonathon King.
Not to mention Pete Townshend -The Who {UK celebs/musicians, that got "found out"}
If Cliff Richard has a load of scat an horsey films..whatabout Princess Anne?....I'd say, lock 'em all up

VEF has pretty strict rules, and although me meself only get on the Modern Forum by accident ~ following particular posters ~ going by the Titles I read around about, VEF should be safe.
WE are dealing with, in the main, public accessible and public domain items.
Vintage and I'd think the Mod's only worries would be in that Modern Section.

If anyone wants bestiality etc, put them in a credit-card ghetto, thus allowing them a kind of net-freedom but restricting dangerous censorship.

And dubious censorship.

[bloke57]

Originally Posted by cginok

You would probably be surprised...especially amongst the older crowd. I came across a woman not long back on OKCupid who was a virgin...she was in her mid 60's. She told me she had never seen a man naked in person.

Indeed! A slightly different point, but a recent serious statistical study looked into the old, old issue of how many sexual partners people had had. The problem has always been, of course, that people lie. But by using a large international sample and various techniques (including closed groups etc.) they pretty much assured an accurate survey.

The result? - Overwhelmingly the commonest answer was one!. People got married and that was that. The second most common answer was zero!!

After one, as the number rose, instances became significantly rarer. Slightly more partners for younger people and more liberal cultures, but multiple partners is a much rarer phenomenon than commonly believed.

So it could be argued, in extremis, that the only "conventional" act is straight sex between a married man and woman...or no sex at all! We all know that would ridiculous and potential fodder to every small-minded bigot on the planet!

[gordian_knot]

The legislation will definitely get passed because politicians willing to speak out against a pornography law are as rare as hen's teeth. It isn't directed at individuals but it will force ISPs to block contravening sites. Putting the porn stuff in there also helps the government enact other stuff that's flying under the radar, such as taking ownership of of any data you share with a government department.

Once this is enacted and everything comes under the BBFC, anything that wouldn't be aceptable to the BBFC - not just porn - will outlaw the website for viewing in the UK. That would include any site selling or hosting videos that aren't cut for UK viewing, for instance.

Any action against individuals continuing to view the material banned in this bill will be under existing legislation. We'll have to wait and see if the CJIA or OPA are interpreted more widely in the future.

Porn is just the start. Expect more restrictions on 'adult' sites in the future. 'Adult' in this case will be any site the UK government doesn't like or can't control.

[snowy25]

Oh yes this is all just part of the wider plan for a Great Firewall of China type system to be put into place. Its easy to start with porn because as you say very few have the balls to stand up and fight against blocks. We still live in a country that is very old fashioned when it comes to sex. Its still talked about in hushed tones and in quiet corners. That is why consenting adult material can be banned without a fight. Funnily enough as we all know MPs are among the worst when it comes to fetishes and illegal acts. However its a case of do as a I say and not as I do as usual with these hypocrites.

[vinceprince]

If these acts actually 'deprave' or 'corrupt' individuals aren't the most corrupt and depraved people in society surely going to be the BBFC censors that will have to watch this endless stream of 'filth' all day?

They'll probably end up with MBEs and Knighthoods.

Me the 13th Duke of Wybourne, Head of the BBFC? With my reputation?
What can they be thinking of?

[penfold007]

Originally Posted by gordian_knot

We'll have to wait and see if the CJIA or OPA are interpreted more widely in the future.

Ultimately the arbiters of what is illegal under both acts (and the Coroners and Justice act, which also has an iniquitous clause relating to pornography) are juries, not the Police or CPS.

Given that despite determined attempts by the CPS, most notably in the Peacock case, juries keep finding that things the CPS think should be "obscene" or "extreme porn" actually aren't, I don't think the landscape for prosecutions of individuals will change much.

[PJayBr]

Originally Posted by bloke57

I was on jury service for a case of a sexual nature and one lovely, but very much a spinster, lady asked in the jury room "do people really do that?" The act in question was oral sex - perfectly normal, but outside her personal experience and she was brave enough to say so. This sounds like yet another piece of knee-jerking, dumbo law we could well do without while we have the spectre of Brexit for parliament to be getting on with.

I remember sitting with my mum watching a documentary that mentioned oral sex and the shudder from her could have been measured on the Richter Scale. I fact she's such a prude I sometimes wonder how I came to be here at all!!!!

[CARLTON BROWN]

I think I've just about had enough of being told what I can and can't look at and being treated like some moronic juvenille deviant. There are already a list of things I simple don't want to look at and don't like. This includes child porn, eye surgery graphic stuff shot in slaughter houses, Islamic beheadings, etc, etc. I don't need some twat in government telling me what to do, with the aim of generating another headline for the Daily Mail or Express. Next, it might be political sites that are banned because they don't have official approval. Sadly, this is all part of a larger social engineering programme to take further control of us and shape our attitudes.

Is there anything we can do about it? Probably not much. Do I want to sign up to a list of online users with an interest in sites that have a sexual content? Probably not as this might just be used against me at some future point.

With the snooper's charter now giving the government an astonishing amount of power and the ability to ruin what's left of democracy in the UK, we will soon find that we've literally sleepwalked into a surveillance and rights restricted society that's no better than China.