Boxing thread (merged) - Page 2

**tabler** · June 16th, 2010, 01:44 PM

hey guys, lets not underestimate our very own Brit champ (hah) Lennox Lewis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lennox_Lewis

This is not going to be a popular opinion, but I honestly think that Ali could not last 5 rounds with the likes of Lewis.

**donny1** · June 16th, 2010, 02:17 PM

Very Bold Statement! I think if asked Mr Lewis even he would say that Ali at his peak would wipe the floor with most Heavyweights.

Muhammad Ali :

" I'm so fast that last night I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark "

**Nobody1** · June 16th, 2010, 03:30 PM

These are all great fighters and athletes from the professional field. Not to be forgotten : Leon Spinks with his surprise victory over Ali (one of the best fighters not just in the ring) in 1978.

But there are also legendary athletes in amateur sports. I call two of them.

Teofilo Stevenson and Felix Savon (both technically perfect)

and finaly also the girls :

Regina Halmich and Laila Ali (tough girls)

Absolutely no go's : Nikolai the nephilim Valuev, the one strike Klitschko brothers and Henry the chessplayer Maske.

**donny1** · June 16th, 2010, 03:32 PM

Manny Pacquiao

Pacquiao is the first boxer in history to win seven world titles in seven different weight divisions.In addition, he is the only boxer to win the lineal championship in four different weight classes.

His greatest hits: ( so far )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCCCjsQaGPo

**IngramJohn** · June 16th, 2010, 04:14 PM

Donny ... Bearing in mind the fitness, diet, training, etc.

How's about this bloke .... JOE CALZAGHE?

Unbeaten!

**donny1** · June 17th, 2010, 06:27 AM

Prior to his retirement in February 2009 as Britain's only undefeated boxing world champion, Calzaghe was the longest-reigning boxing world champion of the modern era. He has a fight record of 46-0, 32 of which by TKO.

He defeated some great Boxers: Roy Jones Jr., Bernard Hopkins, Robin Reid, Chris Eubank,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ge2oCEH6NI

**donny1** · June 17th, 2010, 07:35 AM

Joseph William "Joe" Frazier, known as Smokin' Joe ( born January 12, 1944), is an Olympic (1964) and World Heavyweight Boxing Champion, active from the mid 1960s to the early 1980s.

Frazier was a popular champion, ranked among the best ever heavy weights; reprising himself in cameo roles in several Hollywood films, and professionally is most famous for his trilogy of fights with Muhammad Ali, with him winning one, and Ali two.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unpw2QHMDMs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_y7FiCryb8

**Clouddancer** · June 17th, 2010, 08:28 AM

There have been many boxers who could have claimed to have been the greatest of all time. Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberto Durán, Thomas Hearns, James Toney, Marvin Hagler, Jake LaMotta, Sugar Ray Robinson, and Rocky Marciano. Victor Chavez, even the British ones Alan Minter, Barry McGuigan, Jim Watt, Ricky Hatton, Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, Joe Calzaghe,( not forgetting Henry Cooper who absolutely floored "The Greatest" Ali, only to be denied a victory because of the bell, & some sharp practise with the gloves by Angelo Dundee.)
What about Joe Frasier, George Foreman, & lets not forget Iron Mike an absolute brute of a Boxer in his heyday virtually un beatable before his head got mixed up. Floyd Patterson was a brilliant & elegant boxer & a master tactician.
Everyone I've mentioned, were in my opinion all stars( & I'm sure you can & will be able to add more that I've missed) Everyone of them brought a different skill & style to the ring, & not forgetting raw courage.
We of course will never know who was the best because of course we'll never be able to see them fight each other, so that has to remain a question open to debate. I personally do not believe Ali was the greatest, ( He was maybe the most charismatic )

**donny1** · June 17th, 2010, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clouddancer

I personally do not believe Ali was the greatest, ( He was maybe the most charismatic )

Muhammad Ali: " I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest "

**donny1** · June 17th, 2010, 09:57 AM

George Edward Foreman (born January 10, 1949) is an American two-time former World Heavyweight Boxing Champion, Olympic gold medalist, and successful entrepreneur.

His most notable fights in his early career were his knockout against Joe Frazier in 1973 and his loss to Muhammad Ali in "The Rumble in the Jungle" in 1974. He later became the oldest man ever to become heavyweight boxing champion of the world when, at age 45, he knocked out Michael Moorer, age 26, to reclaim the title he held 20 years earlier. He has been named one of the 25 greatest fighters of all time by Ring magazine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlxYPyEW5fs

June 16th, 2010, 01:44 PM	#11
tabler Comfortably Numb Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: St James Park Posts: 7,029 Thanks: 112,512 Thanked 146,054 Times in 8,009 Posts	hey guys, lets not underestimate our very own Brit champ (hah) Lennox Lewis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lennox_Lewis This is not going to be a popular opinion, but I honestly think that Ali could not last 5 rounds with the likes of Lewis. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. *Velcome to zee Forum. You must obey zee rules!*

June 16th, 2010, 03:30 PM	#13
Nobody1 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,119 Thanks: 16,786 Thanked 22,140 Times in 2,127 Posts	Boys & Girls These are all great fighters and athletes from the professional field. Not to be forgotten : Leon Spinks with his surprise victory over Ali (one of the best fighters not just in the ring) in 1978. But there are also legendary athletes in amateur sports. I call two of them. Teofilo Stevenson and Felix Savon (both technically perfect) and finaly also the girls : Regina Halmich and Laila Ali (tough girls) Absolutely no go's : Nikolai the nephilim Valuev, the one strike Klitschko brothers and Henry the chessplayer Maske.

June 16th, 2010, 03:32 PM	#14
donny1 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Clone Island Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 11,585 Thanked 31,314 Times in 2,617 Posts	The Pac Man Manny Pacquiao Pacquiao is the first boxer in history to win seven world titles in seven different weight divisions.In addition, he is the only boxer to win the lineal championship in four different weight classes. His greatest hits: ( so far ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCCCjsQaGPo

June 16th, 2010, 04:14 PM	#15
IngramJohn Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Hiding behind a Tree in Robin Hood Country. Posts: 890 Thanks: 16,450 Thanked 7,880 Times in 886 Posts	What about our Joe? Donny ... Bearing in mind the fitness, diet, training, etc. How's about this bloke .... JOE CALZAGHE? Unbeaten! __________________ Welcome; Bienvenido; Velkommen; Welkom; Bienvenue; Willkommen; Benvenuti; Welcome ... to the "FOOTBALL" (Soccer) Thread To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. *<<<< Please click!* To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

June 17th, 2010, 07:35 AM	#17
donny1 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Clone Island Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 11,585 Thanked 31,314 Times in 2,617 Posts	Smokin' Joe Frazier Joseph William "Joe" Frazier, known as Smokin' Joe ( born January 12, 1944), is an Olympic (1964) and World Heavyweight Boxing Champion, active from the mid 1960s to the early 1980s. Frazier was a popular champion, ranked among the best ever heavy weights; reprising himself in cameo roles in several Hollywood films, and professionally is most famous for his trilogy of fights with Muhammad Ali, with him winning one, and Ali two. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unpw2QHMDMs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_y7FiCryb8

June 16th, 2010, 02:17 PM	#12
donny1 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Clone Island Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 11,585 Thanked 31,314 Times in 2,617 Posts	Very Bold Statement! I think if asked Mr Lewis even he would say that Ali at his peak would wipe the floor with most Heavyweights. Muhammad Ali : " I'm so fast that last night I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark "

June 17th, 2010, 06:27 AM	#16
donny1 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Clone Island Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 11,585 Thanked 31,314 Times in 2,617 Posts	Prior to his retirement in February 2009 as Britain's only undefeated boxing world champion, Calzaghe was the longest-reigning boxing world champion of the modern era. He has a fight record of 46-0, 32 of which by TKO. He defeated some great Boxers: Roy Jones Jr., Bernard Hopkins, Robin Reid, Chris Eubank, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ge2oCEH6NI

June 17th, 2010, 08:28 AM	#18
Clouddancer Vintage Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Spain - Costa Blanca Posts: 811 Thanks: 10,238 Thanked 11,624 Times in 809 Posts	There have been many boxers who could have claimed to have been the greatest of all time. Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberto Durán, Thomas Hearns, James Toney, Marvin Hagler, Jake LaMotta, Sugar Ray Robinson, and Rocky Marciano. Victor Chavez, even the British ones Alan Minter, Barry McGuigan, Jim Watt, Ricky Hatton, Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, Joe Calzaghe,( not forgetting Henry Cooper who absolutely floored "The Greatest" Ali, only to be denied a victory because of the bell, & some sharp practise with the gloves by Angelo Dundee.) What about Joe Frasier, George Foreman, & lets not forget Iron Mike an absolute brute of a Boxer in his heyday virtually un beatable before his head got mixed up. Floyd Patterson was a brilliant & elegant boxer & a master tactician. Everyone I've mentioned, were in my opinion all stars( & I'm sure you can & will be able to add more that I've missed) Everyone of them brought a different skill & style to the ring, & not forgetting raw courage. We of course will never know who was the best because of course we'll never be able to see them fight each other, so that has to remain a question open to debate. I personally do not believe Ali was the greatest, ( He was maybe the most charismatic ) __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. [Follow your inclinations with due regard to the policeman round the corner.

June 17th, 2010, 09:57 AM	#20
donny1 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Clone Island Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 11,585 Thanked 31,314 Times in 2,617 Posts	George Foreman George Edward Foreman (born January 10, 1949) is an American two-time former World Heavyweight Boxing Champion, Olympic gold medalist, and successful entrepreneur. His most notable fights in his early career were his knockout against Joe Frazier in 1973 and his loss to Muhammad Ali in "The Rumble in the Jungle" in 1974. He later became the oldest man ever to become heavyweight boxing champion of the world when, at age 45, he knocked out Michael Moorer, age 26, to reclaim the title he held 20 years earlier. He has been named one of the 25 greatest fighters of all time by Ring magazine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlxYPyEW5fs