"The Unexplainable...."

[Wendigo]

Originally Posted by 9876543210

damp-patch,

Well, actually, there are significant problems with the current archeologic theory about pyramid construction (the idea that huge ramps were used). It has been a while since I've done any research on this but I remember reading a paper which suggested the ramp idea had major problems because the ramps would have had to have been incredibly long and extremely difficult for the workforce to make the turns on the ramps. I believe it was also suggested that the workforce required just to build and maintain the ramps would have doubled or quadrupled the needed workforce and time requirements.

So even though the archeological community would like you to believe they have everything figured out, they don't. I could go on and on about that subject.

Maybe they got double time at weekends?

[rotobott]

It was an inside job.

http://allaboutegypt.org/2008/11/new...l-ramp-theory/

[9876543210]

RyderKnightley,

Originally Posted by RyderKnightley

I want to believe, but I have to dismiss whatever evidence and data simply because I believe it impossible to travel the vast distances required.

I believe it is imperative to be skeptical about any similar discussions as we're having, but I also think it is unproductive to totally dismiss "whatever evidence and data" is presented. Granted that 90+ % of material in this type of discussion is BS but that still leaves the remainder as unexplained and, to me at least, worthy of further examination. When you think about it, these areas of discussion actually hold great potential for scientific advancement if approached correctly.

Lastly, if you were a scientist and engineer back in 1910, do you think you would have said the same thing about space travel? Submarines? The WWW?

Humans may be relatively intelligent but we are a long, long way from knowing everything.

And Rotobott,

It was an inside job.

http://allaboutegypt.org/2008/11/new...l-ramp-theory/

Well, thats a new one to me. Interesting idea and certainly worth further research but its also full of problems. One, off hand, is that it is believed that some of these stones would have required up to several hundred people (or animals) to pull them up the ramps. The video only shows eight to ten. What would happen when a team gets to one of the turning areas? Do they just jump off the side? Also, if there were interior ramps, there should be lots of evidence of their presence.

Again, interesting idea but needs some work.

[9876543210]

Well, might as well bring in the biggest "unexplained" of them all.....Atlantis. This just appeared on a message board I check periodically:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...bbean-Sea.html

Again, needs a lot of work.

[RyderKnightley]

Originally Posted by 9876543210

Humans may be relatively intelligent but we are a long, long way from knowing everything.

Yes we are a long way from knowing everything, but that is just it, knowing. It doesn't matter how much we learn or know. The laws of the universe are fixed for us and for any other life forms out there.
Our cave dwelling ancestors had no knowledge of gravity, but it was there.
We have discovered that to be a fact. We did not bring it into being because we discovered it, it was always there.

In the not too distant past, physicists thought that they were pretty much redundant, that all of the physical world was fully understood. Then they realised that the laws that we take for granted seemed not to apply to the atomic level world and a new era of physics was born. Now the big problem is finding one theory which applies to the large and the small scale worlds. If this is ever acheived, will physicist feel again that they are reundant and that we then fully understand our universe.

I do not look at every unexplained thing and deny it. It was only recently that I became a UFO sceptic. I had read a book called The Fabric of the Universe by Brian Greene and my eyes were opened to what was possible, what was theoretically possible and what was impossible.

People who believe in one phenomenon or another do not have to give any justification for their beliefs. The onus is always on those who disagree to provide evidence as to why they disagree.
If you beleive that aliens regularly visit our planet, how do you think they get here?

[electile disfunction]

Originally Posted by nevermind

Perfect match...

This is what i call a very clean cut. The stones match perfectly.
How the hell did they do that..?

There are a couple working ideas because engineers and anthropologists have tried to replicate the Inca results. I need to check the professional journals to be sure but I believe the method considered "most likely" is:

Cut the bottom rock close to the shape of the rock to be placed on top of it and then sand the bottom rock (with harder, hand-size stones) to form a perfect fit. (One can check this by placing the top rock in place and then removing it to see where/if some fine sand between the two rocks is all smoothe, rough, or untouched.)

Yes, this takes much manual labour (but not phenomenal amounts like various Pyramids), and as you practice more it is easier to get the rock-shapes correct the first time. Please, remember too that the Inca used slave labour, as other cultures have, so their labour costs were lower in some ways.

e.d.

[nevermind]

For all the unbelievers out there...
you'll see things from another perspective, once you've read books from this author. I did..!!!!
This is no nonsence theory..!!!
Are we alone, were we alone.?. Take for example the pyramides,
How could a civilisation 2000 - 5000 BC have made structures like
those pyramides..?. Not the way the were made, but how arranged according
to the cosmos.

The 12th Planet
Readers of Zecharia Sitchin’s books, particularly The 12th Planet, will recognize the above seal, VA 243 (so named because it is number 243 in the collection of the Vorderasiatische Museum in Berlin). This seal is the centerpiece of Sitchin’s theory that the Sumerians had advanced astronomical knowledge of the planetary bodies in our solar system. This knowledge was allegedly given to the Sumerians by extraterrestrials, whom Sitchin identifies as the Anunnaki gods of Sumero-Mesopotamian mythology. In the upper left-hand corner of the seal, Sitchin argues, one sees the sun surrounded by eleven globes. Since ancient peoples (including the Sumerians according to Sitchin) held the sun and moon to be “planets,” these eleven globes plus the sun add up to twelve planets. Of course, since we now know of nine planets plus our sun and moon, part of Sitchin’s argument is that the Sumerians knew of an extra planet beyond Pluto. This extra planet is considered by Sitchin to be Nibiru, an astronomical body mentioned in Mesopotamian texts. Sitchin’s works detail his contention that Nibiru passes through our solar system every 3600 years, and so some believers in Sitchin’s theory contend that Nibiru will return soon. Some followers of Sitchin’s ideas also refer to Nibiru as “Planet X”.

Is Sitchin correct – in whole or in part? Is Nibiru a 12th planet that will soon return? Does VA243 prove his thesis? Unfortunately for Sitchin and his followers, the answer to each of these questions is no. This paper will focus on the heart of his theory, VA243. Nibiru is the subject of another paper on my website.

[squigg58]

Originally Posted by nevermind

For all the unbelievers out there...
you'll see things from another perspective, once you've read books from this author. I did..!!!!
This is no nonsence theory..!!!

Not quite sure of your point as the last part of your excerpt says that Sitchin's theory isn't correct!

Hardly surprising as the theory that there must be a "missing" planet beyond Pluto is about as daft as suggesting that extraterrestrials must have told ancient civilisations about the Solar System!

The alignment of the Egyptian Pyramids can be fairly easily explained. There are "circumpolar stars" which circle around the North Pole, so can always be seen, and by waiting until they're aligned, you can accurately determine North. You don't need a telescope, a knowledge of the universe, or assistance from visiting aliens ... just an interest in the night sky, a plumb-line and the Mark1 Human eyeball.

[StinkNugget]

Originally Posted by Soft Pillow

The potential of the human brain is remarkable yet so many of us are merely using only a percentage of its true capabilities.[/I][/B]

This made me chuckle as it can be read in several ways. If you're referring to the belief that "humans only use 10% of their brainpower" then it's a common misconception & is totally inaccurate. If you mean many people take things that are spoon fed to them daily without thinking things through for themselves then you're 100% correct, mostly those who believe in paranormal, supernatural or pseudoscience

Originally Posted by RyderKnightley

I believe it was Carl Sagan who developed the formula to determine the number of inhabited planets in the universe.

The Drake Equation ?

Originally Posted by RyderKnightley

But then physical laws also allow for the concept of time travel to the past as well as the future, but do any of us really beleive that that is a possibility? So how could they get here from there. Unless they come from our own solar system, which they obviously don't.

Hawking once famously said someting along the lines that the absence of future humans walking amongst us means that we haven't mastered time travel & then went on to ponder that maybe we can only go back in time no further than the point at which the time machine was invented. Aaaarrggghhh my brain almost explodes trying to fully comprehend time travel theory. I've come out in a cold sweat just from reading the wiki page on time travel

[electile disfunction]

Originally Posted by StinkNugget

This made me chuckle as it can be read in several ways. If you're referring to the belief that "humans only use 10% of their brainpower" then it's a common misconception & is totally inaccurate.

(Just an example to illustrate this part of S-Nug's statement, if all the neurons in one's brain were to fire simulanteously your head would very seriously overheat--this would cause headache, delirium, and probably death by instantaneous 130 degree F. fever (50ish Celsius?). Unlike your muscles and other cells, neurons can't sweat through the skin to expell waste heat.)
e.d.