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Old October 20th, 2018, 02:39 AM   #31
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The famous people of the 30's were all has been's by the time Hef came along anyway.The films that would have had any leverage would have been the recent ones he could have made in the mansion.It's usually hard to positively identify anyone in a lot of those old films anyway.
Obviously not a fan of TCM.
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Old October 21st, 2018, 02:14 AM   #32
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How many old sex films have you ever seen that you could really recognize anyone in,the Marilyn Monroe being one of them.
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Old October 21st, 2018, 04:15 AM   #33
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I'm sure there is way more to Hugh Hefner than any of us will know. I do know this much Hitler came to power from the people who pushed him behind the scenes. And if you look at liquor and wine business in America, during prohibition it was the "mafia" who were the so called kingpins running the empire, but if you want to know the truth it was primarily the Jews who were in control and still are today with major distributorships across America. I'll take an educated guess that Hefner was educated and connected to the Jesuits of Rome. I know he was Catholic. When it comes to being openly or unknowingly photographed or filmed ...who has been the root of this for thousands of years with limitless power to control governments and social engineering but Rome. The bunny symbol has esoteric meaning of the mystery religions and Playboy has the numerical value of 33 ...these are not coincidences. Hef kicked in the sexual revolution, now the batton has been handed to the LBGT movement with pedofilia, incest and beastiality to follow. I grew up on Playboy in the 70's, now I'm 54 and I don't like what I see with humanity. Life imitates porn now, it's disgusting. Most women from middle age to teens are a mess these days. Again this goes back to social engineering, now it's gender neutral ??? Masculine men who are attracted to beautiful feminine women are being phased out of society...another chapter of a sick world.
I wouldn't surprise me one bit if Hefner was gay. What is black is white, and up is down
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Old October 21st, 2018, 05:17 AM   #34
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Old October 21st, 2018, 05:55 AM   #35
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I still believe the story in the o.m. is a fake, but I do believe the premises is true.

We have all heard the rumors and stories about Hollywood, and how the rich and the famous having secret sex-parties and gang bangs, and how some very powerful people using that power to force especially young and beautiful women to sex - which is quite believable, the last couple of years scandals taken in mind.

I also think we haven't even scratched the surface yet, about what's really going on in HW, and maybe we'll never know the truth, because there's still some very powerful people in charge, and they'll do almost everything to cover up and suppress those rumors and stories.

There were an either Dutch or Norwegian documentary about fifteen or twenty years ago - I think it was called "Hollywood's Dark Side" or something similar, and it painted a quite disturbing picture about drugs, prostitution, rape and even molestation of children, and then of course the "usual" stuff about huge secret sex-parties and gang bangs, where everybody fucked everybody.

It was a small film crew that went undercover in HW, and got in contact with a couple of guys you could call the undercover "runners" for the famous and rich. The two guys didn't know each other, but could tell very similar stories, about how they provided for their clients every need and desire - getting them the best drugs, the best call girls etc. etc.

They also told the undercover crew, that some "runners" also provided teens and preteens, both girls and boys, to their clients "special" desires! They picked them up on streets, mostly homeless kids or runaways, or train-stations and bus stops, promised them fame and fortune, but instead they ended up getting molested by scumbags! They both swore by their mothers grave, that they didn't do these kind of things - no siree bob, not them!

I don't remember all, but they also told that if the public knew what was going on, and the stars they thought were pure and innocent angles, was in fact nymphomaniacs and horn dogs, they would probably not believe it or go into shock.

I've been looking for the documentary for many years, but haven't been able to find it anywhere, so if someone know where I can find it, I would be happy to know.

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Old October 21st, 2018, 06:30 AM   #36
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Hefner and his family were not Catholic, they were died in the wool Midwest Methodists. He always mentioned that strict upbringing as part of his desire to later rebel against society norms...And by his own admission, he and his then wife Milly and friends used to have 'secret parties' to watch their collections of 'Blue Movies', as they were called back in the 50s...We can only imagine what else may have gone on at these parties back in the day...His first wife, btw, was very attractive in her youth...
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I remember reading a story of Jim Morrison/The Doors, that they had been invited to a local L.A. Nightclub owner's party and while there, the owner showed them his extensive porn collection featuring old Celebrities from the 30's-50's doing every conceivable type of porn.
Now my point: Hefner being a dyed in the wool collecting fanatic could just as easily have acquired these same pornographic images and probably did.
Not to mention that Hef was a huge video nut recording (secretly) everything that was going on at the mansion. Pretty sure PB has an extensive porn collection of Bill Cosby in action

I think people are getting hung up on the plausibility of the "Hi-Tech Vault" and not seeing the big picture and forgetting that we're talking a Billionaire who not only rubbed shoulders (/Genitals) with the famous but was a perverted Voyeur with an unhealthy appetite for collecting. It's also a good reminder that urban myths are based on some truth. IMO
Y'know Jim's dad was Admiral George Morrison, he oversaw the Gulf Of Tonkin debacle of the USS Maddox...every major musical act from the Laurel Canyon in the 60's was tied to the Military Industrial Complex.. and the British Invasion came from Tavistock Institute...Hefner was an icon because he was meant to be from his task masters. Nothing is what seems
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So why did 'they' choose a newlywed $35/wk copywriter for 'Children's Activities' magazine in a tiny apartment in Chicago to do all of this? Sounds like he was some sort of secret James Bond??
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I'm certain Hef and PB had a lot of influence over a lot of people.Whether he was willing to use it to the extent we're seeing it used by others this day and time we'll probably never know but if the powerful had any power or pull over him he would have been forced to.No matter how powerful you may be there will always be someone that knows something on you.
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I'm of a mind that if these stories are true, then they came about by way of Hef providing sexually needy celebs with a private place to indulge in drugs and sex, while insisting their secrets would never be known or shared; but at the same time making sure to film them secretly or openly to make sure he had power over them. Some were likely so drugged up they didn't realise they were being filmed, or just didn't care in the heat of the moment. For sure a man like Hef would then have kept the films & pix to use as leverage if need be to keep his empire going, or use their influence to keep the usual authorites off his back at other needy times.

Even if any of these pix/vids do exist, we're never likely going to see them; unless someone purchased them off of him as he was dying, and are lying low until the time is right. As someone else hinted at, when enough of the guilty parties have passed on & are unable to sue or cause any outrage over their publication or sharing...
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