Communism. Good or bad. What do you really know about Communism?

[palo5]

Originally Posted by Estreeter

If we make small jokes at each other, Commie, Leftie, Capitalist Pig, whatever, I don't care

You can make big jokes, if you want. Ive been a Party member since 1963, and you kick my ass regularly. You know you love it

If the system had worked as well for others as it worked for me, the world would be a different place

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by palo5

If the system had worked as well for others as it worked for me, the world would be a different place

You know that sad part of that
You'd probably still be in Russia, have no laptop, wouldn't be an elite supermod on VEF and not met me to annoy

[Roubignol]

Originally Posted by Estreeter

I'm going to expand on palo's comment there.

If we make small jokes at each other, Commie, Leftie, Capitalist Pig, whatever , I don't care,

When a member however posts anything about their own family I gonna ask that the reader takes it as fact and not draw anything into doubt, nobody will question the integrity of a comment about anyones family here.

It's been suggested I shut down the thread, I won't do that lightly, but would if required.

Here is my joke...
First Secretary Estreeter deletes comments that he doesn't like.
Even if they are polite.

First Secretary Estreeter you are the best leader ever in this forum.

Long life to First Secretary Estreeter.



By the way... you can delete this topic if it causes too much troubles to unegalitarian people.

[Roubignol]

Originally Posted by palo5

You can make big jokes, if you want. Ive been a Party member since 1963, and you kick my ass regularly. You know you love it

If the system had worked as well for others as it worked for me, the world would be a different place

If it's not a too private question, are you still member of the Party ?

That would be top... to know that there are people who have lived under Sovietism and still hoping egalitarian society.

[palo5]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

If it's not a too private question, are you still member of the Party ?

Yes. It's a deathless ideal, and I will always believe in it

[Roubignol]

Originally Posted by palo5

Yes. It's a deathless ideal, and I will always believe in it

Aha!!! You are one more example of a guy who has lived under Sovietism and thinking it was not as bad as our Western propaganda is used to say.

In your opinion, how can people manage not getting leaders who can corrupt the power, who have the cult of the personnality?

Is Social Anarchism not better than Socialism to reach theoretical Communism?

Maybe we can reach the goal without any leader(s) ? Isn't it ?

[palo5]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

Maybe we can reach the goal without any leader(s) ? Isn't it ?

No, that's not possible. There are hierarchies in everything from families, to councils, to the Party, to the top of the state. We will always need leaders, but they must believe in the ideal, and we hope they can be inspiring

[palo5]

Originally Posted by Estreeter

You know that sad part of that
You'd probably still be in Russia, have no laptop, wouldn't be an elite supermod on VEF and not met me to annoy

Very likely, because we never understood consumerism. Maybe that's we have very low debt, even today

But it's a mistake to think we don't know about you, Comrade. We know everything

[Enrico32]

Originally Posted by Estreeter

Quite seriously, If I owned a business and put up my own ideas to get it running, put up the financial risk and put in more hours than just an employee I'd damn well pay myself more.
Happy with my thoughts ???

I am not happy. Why don't you reply to the "absentee" argument?
People own business without doing any hours, they simply buy it and put others to run it...themselves rip rent. Rent-seeking. How is that fair?

Originally Posted by Estreeter

at School the very small Cambodian community in my hometown wanted people to become more aware of what was going on so they asked the schools to have every Friday no lunches served in the canteen except for one thing, plain rice in a paper cup and one serve only. That community supplied the rice, cooked it and served it to us, the money went to them and did whatever they needed with it, parents were also sent letters to help out by sending kids to school with no lunch so we were forced to only open the door very slightly for a peek into going hungry

What the Cambodians eat now? Idk their body size or culture, maybe it's normal for them? The question of food is not so simple. Could've added dog meat, wild algae (normal for Asia)...or pork (if you get me).

[Enrico32]

Originally Posted by palo5

No, that's not possible. There are hierarchies in everything from families, to councils, to the Party, to the top of the state. We will always need leaders, but they must believe in the ideal, and we hope they can be inspiring

Do you see the difference between the leadership positions you just named?
Who, do you think, had the greatest power in the Gosplan system?
1) Scientists on site who determined what could be produced where
2) War leaders who shouted what should be produced where
3) Generous Western partners who provided the balance against deficit