Communism. Good or bad. What do you really know about Communism?

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by Mal Hombre

I will just say that people Who have no direct knowledge of Communism in action should probably defer to those who do.

Quite seriously, I stay out of political threads here, they bore me,
Till this one came along, it infuriates me that in a world of the known and repeated failures, human rights abuse, genocide, poverty and backward thinking that people still find a want to defend it even after all that.

[palo5]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

I'd not tell that a bunch of lies.
I'd say:

1) If the members of your families were nice people, these Communists were not real Communist but fake ones.
2) but you also must accept that these members of your family maybe were not nice people.

xyz, I'm surprised the Mods allowed that last sentence, because I think you're out of order, and breaking Forum Rules

So can I ask you to stop the personal remarks, please? We don't have to love capitalism or communism or anything in between, but we should always stay polite -- after all, it costs us nothing

[SanteeFats]

I believe this thread is at least due for a vacation. What say ye?

[Wendigo]

Originally Posted by SanteeFats

I believe this thread is at least due for a vacation. What say ye?

I'ts due for an enema

[Roubignol]

Originally Posted by palo5

xyz, I'm surprised the Mods allowed that last sentence, because I think you're out of order, and breaking Forum Rules

So can I ask you to stop the personal remarks, please? We don't have to love capitalism or communism or anything in between, but we should always stay polite -- after all, it costs us nothing

I'm clearly surprised that you read my answer like that.
First Silicone Carne spoke about members of his family. I didn't ask to him to speak about them.

Then my answer was nothing else as pure boolean logic.

A or B = result
A=0 or B=0 then result=0
A=0 or B=1 then result=1
A=1 or B=0 then result=1
A=1 or B=1 then result=1

Just reread my answer:

Originally Posted by xyzde69

I'd not tell that a bunch of lies.
I'd say:

A) If the members of your families were nice people, these Communists were not real Communist but fake ones.

B) but you also must accept that these members of your family maybe were not nice people.

I personally have an uncle who is an incredible asshole. A pure slave driver.
He took advantages of foreign workers to exploit them.
You probably know that foreign workers are particularly vunerable workers in "Greedism".
Hopefully for him, in "Fairism", he would have been sent to jail, when in "Greedism" he's protected by the laws of the "free market".

If Silicon considers that the members of his family corresponded from the first case (A) : "If the members of your families were nice people, these Communists were not real Communist but fake ones."

He musn't be unhappy against me, but unhappy against fake Communists who beat the members of his family.

There is absolutely no provocation from my part.

Now just change the words "members of my family"; by "people"...
and I'd reply by the word "people" instead of "members of your family".

If members of this forum don't want to see members of their family exposed, they don't have to speak about them.

Please Palo5... do not interprete sentences like Western medias. Not you.

[Roubignol]

Originally Posted by Estreeter

Quite seriously, I stay out of political threads here, they bore me,
Till this one came along, it infuriates me that in a world of the known and repeated failures, human rights abuse, genocide, poverty and backward thinking that people still find a want to defend it even after all that.

But when you read the Constitutions... they depict everything apart what you blame.
So where is the problem?

Written Constitutions are fair.

You are electrician so I'm not afraid to use boolean logic with you.

A) Were "leaders" running these Constitutions... dirty assholes.
or
B) Were "the people" killed, abused, dirty assholes.

or maybe... a little bit of A and B...

If there were no A or no B, Constitutions would be respected and surely those countries still would exist as long..... as long that Imperialists do not bomb them or embargo them.

That's easy boolean logic. Isn't it?

[palo5]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

I'm clearly surprised that you read my answer like that.

Yes, I do read it like that. I defer to section mods what they allow here, but you should check out what Forum Rules say about "attitude problems" towards other Members. Whatever views you hold, you must remain polite

[Roubignol]

Originally Posted by Silicone Carne

You know what ?
I'll stop talking to you right here because I think I might be a very mean guy. I know my family. You don't. And the decency won't let me write what I have in mind. But believe me, it's harsh.

I really feel sorry that you didn't understand my comments.

Don't forget that I met people who liked Communism (first message of this topic).
Don't forget that Palo himself told that his family cried when hearing that Stalin died.

There were people who wanted to live in a more egalitarian dream.
Not being exploited anymore.

[palo5]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

There were people who wanted to live in a more egalitarian dream.

They still do, and it is a deathless ideal. That's what this thread should be about

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by palo5

Yes, I do read it like that. I defer to section mods what they allow here, but you should check out what Forum Rules say about "attitude problems" towards other Members. Whatever views you hold, you must remain polite

I'm going to expand on palo's comment there.

If we make small jokes at each other, Commie, Leftie, Capitalist Pig, whatever , I don't care,

When a member however posts anything about their own family I gonna ask that the reader takes it as fact and not draw anything into doubt, nobody will question the integrity of a comment about anyones family here.

It's been suggested I shut down the thread, I won't do that lightly, but would if required.