Erotic/Pornographic art/prints and illustrations [merged]

[mysterybadger]

Both Robert Auer and Mikhaily Zichy have featured here before but never together:

[deepsepia]

Originally Posted by mysterybadger

Both Robert Auer and Mikhaily Zichy have featured here before but never together:

mysterybadger, you're on the trail of Zichy from whaler's scrimshaw to Croatian schmalz painters . . . I don't know how you can spot these, its a really impressive level of art recognition and memory!

Originally Posted by mysterybadger

I see what you mean, but O.K. is very much an "inside-out" artist, in that he clearly starts with his figures and then puts clothes on them, whereas Rackham seems to be drawing his visions directly. That clearly makes Rackham the superior artist but in many ways I prefer the flesh and blood solidity of O.K.'s flappers.

No question, Rackham has all sorts of skills that are more than what we're seeing from O.K.

But take a look at this one again



That's a tricky image. He's representing the brightly lit sky in the unprinted paper stock, with the sea in black -- note the cast shadow coming forward on the rocks- and doing a translucency/shadowcasting effect on the Japanese looking parasol. The use of the blank unprinted space to represent the brightest areas, there's a lot of clever, something you also see in Japanese block prints.

Ally Sloper's Half Holiday is sometimes considered the "first comic book" -- it ran from the 19th century to about 1915, and then was very briefly revived in the early 1920s (that's what the "new series" up in the date/volume line means)

An intriguing mystery. The new series only ran for a few years, and so far as I can tell by searching the British Newspaper Archive (a great resource) he did no more than a dozen for them, all at the end of its run in 1923. So he's got to have been working elsewhere . . . couldn't have just shown up to do a dozen covers for a dying publication, he was surely a working commercial artist.

The flapper craze starts in about 1920, and like Prudhomme's grisettes, they're a vision of female availability and flirtatiousness that's novel and exciting.

On a related note, an artist who gets more explicit in roughly this period or a few years later is Suzanne Meunier, Mac1 posted a few of her works some time ago
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...postcount=1844
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...postcount=1462

Here's a few more, including the only explicitly sexual content I've seen attributed to her.

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another 1920s artist, along with Suzanne Meunier one of the few European women to work in the field. Very little is known about her, beyond a possible birthdate around 1907

Her work comes up at auction fairly often in Austria . . . I've yet to see anything more explicit than a pinup.

At her more dramatic, she reminds me in a fetish-y way of Aubrey Beardsley a bit. Other work is inspired by dancers, a bit of Loïe Fuller or Isadora Duncan maybe . . .

[mysterybadger]

My memory used to be much,much better.

But I still have my moments.

Originally Posted by deepsepia

[deepsepia]

Originally Posted by mysterybadger

My memory used to be much,much better.

But I still have my moments.

Wow, if this is the diminished memory-- well, it started from a very impressive level of expertise

Now-- do you think that this is Becat inspired by Meunier? Or vice versa?

The weird thing is that the Meunier looks a little crude compared to her other images. I found it on an auction site, but I wonder if its possible that its someone passing off a copy of Becat as Meunier . . .

[mysterybadger]

Originally Posted by deepsepia

Now-- do you think that this is Becat inspired by Meunier? Or vice versa?

The weird thing is that the Meunier looks a little crude compared to her other images. I found it on an auction site, but I wonder if its possible that its someone passing off a copy of Becat as Meunier . . .

Something tells me "vice versa":

[tedm04]

It’s a pleasure to see a reference in this forum to a figure from the golden age of British and American book illustration.

I would like to acknowledge the recent turn for the better in this thread. It’s not just the renewed activity, although that’s welcome, but the trend of a group of members taking the trouble (sometimes considerable) to prepare organized posts that include identification information where available.

While a number of members have taken part in this, deepsepia has been the leader in providing interesting new material as well as knowledgeable and thoughtful commentary. My hearty thanks to all of you.

Originally Posted by deepsepia

Agreed. Look at the confidence of the way he letters "O.K." -- its seems to me a rather "art nouveau" lettering style, not so much a newspaper illustrator's hand as an artist's. It almost reminds me of Arthur Rackham, a little bit . . .

Two more



So, yes, he has to have done more than this. He's got a good hand for the tricky stuff, posing girls naturally floating in water or standing on a slightly unbalanced boat. Not easy to get that right . . .

[deepsepia]

Originally Posted by tedm04

While a number of members have taken part in this, deepsepia has been the leader in providing interesting new material as well as knowledgeable and thoughtful commentary. My hearty thanks to all of you.

You're most welcome, but in fairness I want to acknowledge that I was just trying to keep up the very high standards that early contributors to this thread set. The departure of the estimable mac1 was the motivation . . . thread originator Wulfram is long gone, but stalwarts like kelio and Joszka have been posting first rate material for a very long time.

And I've got to hand it to some of the new arrivals, particularly mysterybadger who is a one many Courtauld Institute of erotic art. Also new to the board with some great finds is elephas

I hesistate to point to folks in particular, because this thread became the incredible resource that it is through the efforts of lots of folks. I tend to give pudpuller grief because of his habit of just posting a bunch of unsorted material, but I have found some new and interesting artists in amongst his usual assortment of Tom Poulton.

One more thing-- people tend to only look at new posts, but this thread has been going for some 12 years now, and if you look back a few years there are posts of artists I've never seen before or since

Some random examples of deep cuts in this thread . . .
1)
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...postcount=1040

mac1 identified this as "anon around 1925" -- worth digging a bit to see if a better ID is possible

2) dial back the calendar to 2012 and the sadly departed Erdnuss posted a rare German article about the much loved -- and per mysterybadger, much copied-- artist Zichy
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...postcount=1040


3) back in 2011, kelio posted the only entry I've seen about Pal Fried
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...&postcount=230


So thanks to these posters and every one else who've made this thread a bit of a treasure chest of erotic illustration and art!

[mysterybadger]

Originally Posted by deepsepia

1)
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...postcount=1040

mac1 identified this as "anon around 1925"

These are uncredited illustrations from The Book of Lust by Pierre LaColombiere. They have also been attributed to "Grimaudin" but I'm not madly convinced even if they do share a passion for lampshades:

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I can't find "Grimaudin" on this thread--has he appeared under another name perhaps?

These also remind me ever so slightly of the illustrations from Gamiani ou Deux Nuits d’Excès, which are also anonymous, so we're not getting very far.


I'd also be intrigued to know if this is by the same artist:


If anyone has any more images featuring men wearing socks with suspenders then please bring them out!

[deepsepia]

Originally Posted by mysterybadger

These are uncredited illustrations from The Book of Lust by Pierre LaColombiere. They have also been attributed to "Grimaudin" but I'm not madly convinced even if they do share a passion for lampshades:

MB, you never fail to impress.

Originally Posted by mysterybadger

If anyone has any more images featuring men wearing socks with suspenders then please bring them out!

The king of male sock garter fetish has to be J.C Leyendecker, a fashion illustrator whose gay sensibilities were somewhere between Vincent Price and Quentin Crisp. Huge talent . . . very influential in advertising graphics, and looking at them now I wonder "did people at the time see how homoerotic they were?"



(not all are Leyendecker, but most are)