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Old June 20th, 2018, 02:36 AM   #4391
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Never heard it pronounced "sodder." Sold jur is how I've always heard that word pronounced.
Not soldier, solder, as in soldering iron.
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Why can't you yanks say 'Solder' (with an 'L' in the middle), why do you have to say 'sodder'?
because the "l" is silent in America and asked the "d" to double up.

Why would and Englishman add an "r" to the end of 'idea?'
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Old June 20th, 2018, 07:32 AM   #4393
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because the "l" is silent in America and asked the "d" to double up.

Why would and Englishman add an "r" to the end of 'idea?'
We don't really, it's pretty weak or silent, phonetically it's /ˈsəʊldʒə(r)/

https://www.macmillandictionary.com/...tish/soldier_1


Even British pron varies a lot with region and accent, the "l"is weak in many working class accents like cockney.

it's usually silent with idea /aɪˈdɪə/

Though some RP speakers are more likely to pronounce it with a weak 'r', though it's not normally done in normal quick conversation.

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Old June 20th, 2018, 09:24 AM   #4394
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I think it's more usually pronounced Soldjer..How else can You pronounce Idea ?
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Old June 20th, 2018, 12:34 PM   #4395
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The "Food Police" that were rampant during Obama's term and are still very much trying to stay relevant, are still trying to fight obesity. They have banned foie gras in many restaurants as being cruel to animals (which can be true to an extent, but i do not think most obese people eat foie gras) , they continue to protest outside BBQ and Steak Restaurants and continue to try to force veganism upon everyone. In NY they tried to ban salt so that they can save lives from heart disease. People are going to eat what they like, and in most instances obesity is caused by some other factor. Some it is truly genetic (thyroid disease, glandular, etc.) but IMO it is usually mental/emotional. My grandfather ate eggs and bacon for breakfast and steak and potatoes with salt and butter for dinner almost his entire life and he died at 93. Not from his diet but because of old age. He was also a very emotionally stable man and stayed active his whole life and he was classified as obese.


Michelle Obama was big on forcing schools to provide healthier lunches to fight childhood obesity. These "healthier lunches" cost more to provide so parents were forced to pay more, and in many cases the kids threw away most of the food because it did not taste good (I guess her strategy of starving kids would reduce obesity). Unless you have someone there forcing the kid to eat the food, it does no good, and the kids were just eating junk food when they got home.


There is nothing wrong with promoting healthy food, but when you mandate it, you have gone to far. People can still get fat by eating "healthy" food.

Hmmm... Let me tell you that I doubt about mental/emotional stories.
There are physics laws against we can't fight.

In the book of Physics for biologists of Kane/Sternheim on the chapter "11 thermodynamic" there is a small exercise about human metabolism. (Please observe how precise I try to be! Quoting American references! )
According to this exercise, moving is not enough.
I've got the French version of this book and I translate it here.


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A 65 kg cyclist riding at a moderate pace for 4 hours consumes 7100 kJ.
This represents a mass of fat necessary for the energy expenditure of 0.18 kg.
The average energy expenditure of a sedentary person is 10500 kJ.
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A 4-hour exercise on a bicycle will therefore consume about two-thirds of the energy required daily by a sedentary person.
This clearly demonstrates that for weight loss, eating less is much more effective than exercise.
Here is the French National Health Nutrition Program

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In February 2017, the National Health Nutrition Program updated nutritional benchmarks for adults. These benchmarks are intended to cover nutritional needs, preventing the risk of chronic diseases related to certain foods.

Foods to limit

Red meat: beef, pork, lamb, veal, etc. 500 g / week maximum;
Meats: ham, salami, etc. : 150 g / week maximum, favoring white ham;
Sugared beverages: one drink a day maximum, focusing on fruit juice;
Salt ;
Fats: limit consumption, focusing on rapeseed, walnut and olive oils.

Foods to focus on

Fish and seafood: twice a week including a fat (mackerel, sardine, etc.);
Fruits and vegetables: at least 5 servings a day, 80 to 100 g each;
Legumes: lentils, beans, beans, peas, etc. that can replace meat;
Products made from whole grains or not very refined.
I don't know in America, but in Europe, "foods to focus on" are less expensive than "food to limit".
Here the most expensive food are meat and fish. (About 20 to 50 $ the kg)
They are more expensive than beans, lentils or peas. (About 5 $ the kg)

Instead to drink sodas full of sugar, water with a little bit raw lemon or apple juice is very tasty too.

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because the "l" is silent in America and asked the "d" to double up.

Why would and Englishman add an "r" to the end of 'idea?'
There are no "r" pronounced in English and American languages.

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I resent that remark..We're very proud of Our Rs..I said Rs..
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I resent that remark..We're very proud of Our Rs..I said Rs..
For sure you have to be proud of your "r", it's a very sweet ones, but they do not correspond as a "brutal" typical sound. They are more like a conjunction of vowels.

When in Spanish, Portuguese, German, Italian, Dutch or French as examples, the pronunciacion of the "r" is very strong.

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I resent that remark..We're very proud of Our Rs..I said Rs..
Mal obviously speaks like the lady before the Heineken rather than after.

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Did any American know that a Rugby League international between England and New Zealand was played at Mile High in Denver on Saturday? We won.
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Did any American know that a Rugby League international between England and New Zealand was played at Mile High in Denver on Saturday? We won.
None of us knew, all the fans in the stadium were from other countries.
Now if they were women and they competed topless then HELL yes.
OH who is we???
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